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    Matchmaking FAQ

    Letting this thread die. Updated version here - https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...AQ-Matchmaking
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    In the "Collecting Clan War Matchups" sticky, which is going nowhere, I suggested Darian put up a Matchmaking FAQ sticky instead of sending us on a snipe hunt. I'm not very confident it'll happen, so perhaps we should make our own. Happy to add suggestions, discuss below.

    To clarify, I'm looking to clear up common misconceptions, not present a guide. I'd like to stick with things we have a high degree of confidence about, things that SC should/has come right out to say without giving more detail about MM than they want to/should.
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    You left off...."Matching clan levels is the #1 priority of the matchmaker, it's truly all that matters in determining a fair matchup." <\sarcasm>

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    Quote Originally Posted by TankSinatra View Post
    In the "Collecting Clan War Matchups" sticky, which is going nowhere, I suggested Darian put up a Matchmaking FAQ sticky instead of sending us on a snipe hunt. I'm not very confident it'll happen, so perhaps we should make our own. Happy to add suggestions, discuss below.

    To clarify, I'm looking to clear up common misconceptions, not present a guide. I'd like to stick with things we have a high degree of confidence about, things that SC should/has come right out to say without giving more detail about MM than they want to/should.
    His sticky isn't working because it requires an unreasonable amount of time to gather the data, type it up and post it. Very few people have that kind of time/and or is willing to go that lengths for a mobile game. For every Dorsan or Superstorm, there are 9999 (made up number) average clashers who have no desire to do that kind of work. This isn't a second job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chang405 View Post
    His sticky isn't working because it requires an unreasonable amount of time to gather the data, type it up and post it. Very few people have that kind of time/and or is willing to go that lengths for a mobile game. For every Dorsan or Superstorm, there are 9999 (made up number) average clashers who have no desire to do that kind of work. This isn't a second job.
    Agree. Not just tedious but worthless. I'm suggesting a different project here, lot more limited but a lot more possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees095 View Post
    You left off...."Matching clan levels is the #1 priority of the matchmaker, it's truly all that matters in determining a fair matchup." <\sarcasm>
    Exactly what I'm looking for, updating OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TankSinatra View Post
    Agree. Not just tedious but worthless. I'm suggesting a different project here, lot more limited but a lot more possible.
    It wouldn't be worthless if tons of people participated (negating the small sample size problem) and if he had a way to pool the data together and compile/analyze it in a meaningful way. Eyeballing what people post won't tell much of a story.

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    1. Your Gold storage value, available loot and position on the map relative to your clan mates, is a reflection of your approximate defensive weight only.

    2. Your offensive weight is 'under the hood'
    Link :-(3.00 onwards) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33o4C6SNess

    p.s. You may want to leave this out, as I know it will only stir up trouble!!

    3. The Matchmaking Algorithm is a series of routines/checkboxes/checkmarks used to match your clan.
    Link :- (2.20 onwards) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqR3M7Ss_Hs



    Disclaimer : Both the links above refer to a direct conversation between Jonas from the Dev team, and a prominent Youtuber, which SC gave permission for him to publish in March 2016.
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    Tank, thanks for putting this together. Definitely helps.

    Not sure if you want to include this, since it's directly from SC:

    Q: Does the MM look for lopsided bases?
    A: Yes. There is a "huge amount of code behind the CW matchmaking that specifically looks for lopsided bases and is designed to mitigate any unfair advantage they might have."

    I'm not sure I would add it because it doesn't seem to apply in practice.

    I have all the SC MM posts that stated what they intend to do (i.e. identify manicured bases and eliminate the advantage...balanced approach to offense and defense, etc.) but none of that is playing out. Your FAQ would lose credibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skrags View Post
    1. Your Gold storage value, available loot and position on the map relative to your clan mates, is a reflection of your approximate defensive weight only.

    2. Your offensive weight is 'under the hood'
    Link :-(3.00 onwards) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33o4C6SNess

    p.s. You may want to leave this out, as I know it will only stir up trouble!!

    3. The Matchmaking Algorithm is a series of routines/checkboxes/checkmarks used to match your clan.
    Link :- (2.20 onwards) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqR3M7Ss_Hs



    Disclaimer : Both the links above refer to a direct conversation between Jonas from the Dev team, and a prominent Youtuber, which SC gave permission for him to publish in March 2016.
    Good. Added these, including your second point to my point N4. Which as you say might stir disagreement (hope Ryry doesn't see this) but I don't doubt it at all.
    Level 10 Adult War Clan METAMUCIL.
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    Metamucil keeps the red out of our logs. Small wars, great record, low pressure.
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