The Builder Base isn’t fair; mismatches; BH1 vs BH8; etc....

[alexthegreat04]

The trophy ladder for the BH is a self regulating layered system /Affront

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Matchmaking system based on combination of BH level and trophies is also self regulating in nature. If a lower BH level keeps rising, then he will see progressively less trophies on win but significant trophies lost on loss. Eventually, majority of lower level players will stay in the bottom level, but a few highly skilled ones will make it to the top.

Everybody will be sorted according to a combination of strength and skill soon enough.
/Affront

Sadly, for lower BH levels sorting is being done primarily on the basis of strength of base. The skill levels don't matter against higher BH levels.

BH5s don't belong above 3K trophies anymore, and pretty soon, even BH6s will have to actually FIGHT to stay above 3500.
/Affront

This is exactly the problem. Lower BH levels do not have a fighting chance to make it to top levels due to which trophy levels are hard capped. Lower BH levels should be given an opportunity to rise through the ranks on the basis of skill but make it difficult by progressively reducing the number of trophies that a lower BH level can win at high leagues.

[Affront]

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Matchmaking system based on combination of BH level and trophies is also self regulating in nature. If a lower BH level keeps rising, then he will see progressively less trophies on win but significant trophies lost on loss. Eventually, majority of lower level players will stay in the bottom level, but a few highly skilled ones will make it to the top.



Sadly, for lower BH levels sorting is being done primarily on the basis of strength of base. The skill levels don't matter against higher BH levels.



This is exactly the problem. Lower BH levels do not have a fighting chance to make it to top levels due to which trophy levels are hard capped. Lower BH levels should be given an opportunity to rise through the ranks on the basis of skill but make it difficult by progressively reducing the number of trophies that a lower BH level can win at high leagues.

You misunderstand me .. deliberately, probably..

Lower BH levels don't have a God Given Right to get further up the ranks than their STRENGTH can bring them.

The Trophy Ladder system isn't separated based on age, gender or weight .. it's separated by STRENGTH first, and THEN skill.

I'm going to ignore the "progressively smaller number of trophies"-suggestion, because that's just another way to limit how high a lower BH can go ... and it would be the basis as just as much confusion and frustration as the current system.

/Affront

[Ricardo82]

my secondary BB is a BH4 almost full, but when i reach 1800 trophies i cant go further, normally i go down to 1700, and only after this fall i can win again more matches.. the problem are the weaker, unskilled BH5/BH6 players that get stucked in this level of trophies, so, neither them, neither do i can go beyond this line..

[Noctaire]

BH4 should not be able to go above 1800 or so trophies. Yes, you start to fight much tougher BH levels above your own when you try to do so...that’s would be what makes it a self-regulating system.

Some players seem to have this idea that they should be able to push trophies to the highest levels regardless of their BH level. That’s simply not the case.

And the the idea that you should only fight your own BH level is equally flawed. Each BH level’s progress, along with player skill, will generally dictate where they fall in the trophy rankings. An early BH5 usually means a less skilled BH5 player and, therefore, a lower trophy ranking than someone who has been at BH5 a few weeks and is further along in developing the base. Likewise, someone who is further along in BH4 will be higher in the rankings for all the same reasons. It only makes sense that these two meet - they’re roughly equal.

I’ve fought many, many, MANY opponents at BH levels above my own ever since the game started. Sometimes the match is unwinnable; most of the time, though, it’s a fairly even match and I win. Things are a bit messy right now because of the BH7 release, but even now I am regularly beating early BH7 games with my rushed BH6 games, and playing my kid’s BH4 game at 1800 trophies, I do nothing but beat BH5 opponents every day. (Much to my chagrin, he is insisting we max everything but walls....) I’m far from alone in that, especially when I get the occasional beating from someone under my own BH level.

[Noctaire]

We seem to be back to seeing more of these “it’s not fair” posts. We need the mods to create a sticky and start merging posts....

[Uggster]

Um.... Dude u created this post.

[Noctaire]

Um.... Dude u created this post.

I meant in general; this post is in response to the “it’s not fair” posts.

[Mrlk]

We seem to be back to seeing more of these “it’s not fair” posts. We need the mods to create a sticky and start merging posts....

Sadly stickies dont do anything example just look at the ideas section every day someone posts a ruled out idea thats in the must read before posting stickies

[Noctaire]

Sadly stickies dont do anything example just look at the ideas section every day someone posts a ruled out idea thats in the must read before posting stickies

They at least provide a dumping ground for all the repetitive posts....

[TimGinger]

Solid post, as always Noc. I'd like to, in agreement with a couple of other in the thread, see this as sticky on the subforum. The post eloquently describes why people are encountering what they are seeing and why it happens. Would be great to pull people out of their victim-role style of thinking and instead look past themselves.