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    Collecting Clan War matchups...for science...and stuff!

    Let's have a central repository for posting Clan War matchups. This goes for both good and bad matchups. We refer to our own internal data driven information, but we also want to make sure this coincides with what the community is seeing as well.

    Simply stating the number of Town Halls on each side doesn't give us a clear enough idea of why a matchup is good or bad. We need to see the breakdown of each base on each side. I understand this is a tedious request, but it does give us a greater understanding of what you are seeing.

    Formatting
    To try and prevent massive walls of texts, presenting the information in a table would make it much simpler to read. You can find the table creation function in the formatting options. I have used 17 Columns. Use as many rows as needed for each clan (ie - 30 rows for 15v15, 80 rows for 40x40, etc.)

    Post how many of each x the level. So under the TH11, you can see that this person has 2x Level 3 Inferno Towers (2x3), 2x Level 2 Crossbows, and 2x Level 3 Crossbows (2x2, 2x3).

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    I know listing the walls is a pain in the posterior. It's just ancillary information but would help if listed.
    Note Note: Also list your war streak, if you won your match up, and what the final score was.
    Note Note Note: If I missed anything, mods, feel free to add additional info.

    TH AQ BK GW EA IT CB CN MT WT AT AD TC BT AS Walls Misc?
    11 30 30 10 1 2x3 2x2,2x3 6x13 4x8 5x10 8x13 4x8 4x9 2x4 2x6 270x9,25x11
    10 20 10 X X 2x2 3x5 5x11 4x7 4x9 7x11 4x7 4x8 2x3 2x5 250x9, 20x10
    10 26 26 X X 1x2, 1x1 2x2,1x3 5x10 4x7 1x7,3x6 7x10 4x6 4x7 2x2 2x4 270x8











    Key:
    TH - Town Hall
    AQ - Archer Queen
    BK - Barb King
    GW - Grand Warden
    EA - Eagle Artillery
    IT - Inferno Tower
    CB - Crossbow
    CN - Cannon
    MT - Mortar
    WT - Wizard Tower
    AT - Archer Tower
    AD - Air Defense
    TC - Tesla Coil
    BT - Bomb Tower (or Brian Transeau for EDM fans)
    AS - Air Sweeper
    Walls - Try to list how many of each level
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    This is the type of interactions I like to see from you guys! Im sure many of the forum regulars will be posting match ups. I myself will figure out the format and try also.

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    Wouldn't it be a lot easier for you to create a reporting system, where clan members could send their own clan tag and the opponents clan tag in case they think they got a mismatched? And then your matchmaking engineers analyze the data on their side.

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    I can tell you we just had a 15v15 where they used 10 defenseless accounts lololol. Not playing war anymore

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    You expect US to create this super duper tedious table??? While YOU (SC) can easily access this data AFTER we supply the name of our clan, the opponent clan and the date of the war?

    Geeezzz, SMH!

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    I am all for data. That's what I do for a living. But, seriously, you can't pull this from your database if we supply the clan names and the date?
    Last edited by TheAaTeam; October 4th, 2017 at 04:06 PM.

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    I appreciate SC taking interest in gathering war MM feedback from the community. But I also agree w/ 1400Dragon/Aateam that the table approach seems like a tedious way to do it. War MM has gotten super complicated with all the different types of bases now and the cryptic SC algorithm that everyone is trying to decrypt.

    We want the game to be fun, fair, and not biased toward certain bases or engineered clans. I realize that's the whole point of this thread but there's gotta be an easier way to pinpoint where the unfair matchmaking stems from.
    Last edited by Legion82; October 4th, 2017 at 04:01 PM. Reason: Typo

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    Really, SuperCell? This is the way you want to collect data?

    If this information is important to you (which I think it should be), then I would recommend you do this on your end. Otherwise, you'll get a reporting bias and the data will not be representative.

    Garbage in, garbage out.

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    Test of the 1st 3.
    Darian, thank you for communicating with us and then letting us know what areas you want us to focus on. I hope this info will be help provide a solution.
    TH AQ BK GW EA IT CB CN MT WT AT AD TC BT AS Walls Misc?
    11 45 45 20 1 2X5 4X5 7X15 4X10 5x10 8X15 4X9 4x9 2X5 2x6 225X11 75X12
    11 45 45 50 1 2X5 4X5 7X15 4X10 5X10 8X15 4X9 4X9 2X5 2X6 225X11 75X12
    11 31 27 20 1 2X3 3X4 1X3 6X13 1X12 4X9 3X9 1X7 7X13 1X12 4X8 4X8 2X4 2X6 15X11 235X10 25X9


    wow you mean people who complain about the MM being unfair also complain when asked to help fix something you claim is an issue? This will take some time in the beginning but as many have asked for SC to do is tell us what to do. Now that they do you complain? This right here tells me a lot. 1. Many people work the system to help them win in wars are putting in a lot of time. That time is rewarded with a lean and mean clan that wins as they should be rewarded. 1'm not talking about defenseless engineers since that strategy is while works better than maxing falls short when some defenses are added. 2. A known issue is th11 matching and this data will help however if people are too lazy to do this maybe, just maybe they are too lazy to properly build a defensive base or attack with skill. The result is poor performance in CW and what I believe is more a major issue of people wanting to blame someone or something else other than themselves for the loss.
    So take the time and join in the research.
    If you're not smarter than the guy you're dealing with you lose.
    You failed to utilize the most effective strategy by not using the most available resources to affect your outcome.
    I play to win. You play to see how tough you are.
    Defeat the enemy anyway you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJackrabbit View Post
    Test of the 1st 3.
    Darian, thank you for communicating with us and then letting us know what areas you want us to focus on. I hope this info will be help provide a solution.
    TH AQ BK GW EA IT CB CN MT WT AT AD TC BT AS Walls Misc?
    11 45 45 20 1 2X5 4X5 7X15 4X10 5x10 8X15 4X9 4x9 2X5 2x6 225X11 75X12
    11 45 45 50 1 2X5 4X5 7X15 4X10 5X10 8X15 4X9 4X9 2X5 2X6 225X11 75X12
    11 31 27 20 1 2X3 3X4 1X3 6X13 1X12 4X9 3X9 1X7 7X13 1X12 4X8 4X8 2X4 2X6 15X11 235X10 25X9


    wow you mean people who complain about the MM being unfair also complain when asked to help fix something you claim is an issue? This will take some time in the beginning but as many have asked for SC to do is tell us what to do. Now that they do you complain? This right here tells me a lot. 1. Many people work the system to help them win in wars are putting in a lot of time. That time is rewarded with a lean and mean clan that wins as they should be rewarded. 1'm not talking about defenseless engineers since that strategy is while works better than maxing falls short when some defenses are added. 2. A known issue is th11 matching and this data will help however if people are too lazy to do this maybe, just maybe they are too lazy to properly build a defensive base or attack with skill. The result is poor performance in CW and what I believe is more a major issue of people wanting to blame someone or something else other than themselves for the loss.
    So take the time and join in the research.
    Good for you. May I borrow your VHS?

    haha, I just realized the "Garbage in garbage out" post is from 'vhs'...agreed with you man

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