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    Quote Originally Posted by Vikingchief View Post
    If this is an attempt to get people to consider the full picture and reflect thoughtfully on the match


    and guys, i am suspicious of supercell as the next guys, but you guys are being a bit hostile to what is really a good idea, with some improvments a great one, and we should jump at the chance to offer better suggestions, help him help us, and try get a better understanding of the performance of the matchmaker.

    we have a supercell contact wanting our feedback and willing to discuss it with us, Its a step foward, come on, lets give it a go.
    Didn't I and SS offer a suggestion? and we heard nothing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Vikingchief View Post
    and Darian, please get defence data into he API data so we can really help you.
    Cricket.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAaTeam View Post
    Didn't I and SS offer a suggestion? and we heard nothing.


    Cricket.....
    yeah, some people were awseome, others were not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAaTeam View Post
    Didn't I and SS offer a suggestion? and we heard nothing.




    Cricket.....
    Negative... they have high frequency trading algorythms that make millions a day and were to believe SC cant match quasi fair wars? Buahahahahaha

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    Related to this: Why do we see a quantified defensive war weight (in the gold storages) but not offensive war weight anywhere? Either see both or none at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrod55426 View Post
    Related to this: Why do we see a quantified defensive war weight (in the gold storages) but not offensive war weight anywhere? Either see both or none at all.
    No thanks, would just make it easier to manipulate the system then it already is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAaTeam View Post
    The current war match-up (still ongoing). Probably is another L (4 losses in a row). Admittedly, we are already defeated mentally.

    We took out all 0.5 bases. The TH spread is still there. I will remove that in the next war. There is no way our bottom three can take theirs. That means this makes it a 7vs10 war. That means no room for error. So, regardless if you say "we could have, should have, would have", it doesn't matter. If the match-up leaves you with 'no room for error' (four in a row!), there is something wrong with the match-ups.

    By the way, our 8 is a new TH9. He maxed all TH8 troops, spells, and defs (except for poison).



    No TH BK AQ GW EA IT XB Loot Entry Def Weight Def Diff Def Weight Loot Entry TH BK AQ GW EA IT XB
    1 11 45 45 20 1 3,4 4,4,4,4 21200 106 1 105 21000 11 25 30 11 2 5,5 5,5,5,5
    2 10 30 40 3,3 4,4,4 17400 87 0 87 17400 10 27 25 3,3 4,4,4
    3 10 31 41 2,2, 3,3,3 17200 86 4 82 16400 10 19 20 1,1 3,3,3
    4 9 30 30 3,3 14000 70 1 69 13800 9 26 26 3,3
    5 9 18 20 3,3 13600 68 -1 69 13800 9 22 24 3,3
    6 9 14 16 3,3 13400 67 -1 68 13600 9 23 20 3,3
    7 9 16 22 3,3 13200 66 -2 68 13600 9 18 17 3,3
    8 9 10 3 11800 59 -8 67 13400 9 11 11 3,3
    9 8 10 13000 52 -12 64 12800 9 10 8 2,2
    10 6 8334 25 -34 59 11800 9 10 3 1,3
    Total 204 217 20 1 -52 191 184 11 1
    BK AQ GW EA -5.2 BK AQ GW EA
    Am I missing something? You are already defeated mentally? Where is this war a mismatch? If anywhere it is an advantage for your clan Honestly it's posts like this that have me thinking that it's the perception of the public as to whats fair and what is not that has to change more than the matchmaker itself.

    This one has left me scratching my head.



    To follow up… Surprise, surprise, you won lol. Go figure. People need to learn to recognize what actually matters in a war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SumoSloth View Post
    Honestly it's posts like this that have me thinking that it's the perception of the public as to whats fair and what is not that has to change more than the matchmaker itself.
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure the average clan would have thrown in the towel when faced with our current match up. 5 th11 us to 12 th11 them. Though 3 of their wardens are not effective and the rest are all under level 10. And their AQ/BK levels are mostly really really low. They do have some max troops to go with those wardens, but only on a hand full of the 11's. The rest are still working with th10 troop levels. They have en extremely beefier lower 65% of their roster, where as we are slightly better defended towards the top.

    It's a 30/30 war, current score (5 hours left) is 80 us 70 them. We still have 4 th11 hits left and some th10's. I'm guessing we will get to 86 or 87 stars. There were really clipping along while they were doing good dipping and double dipping our th9 and under. Then the lavaloon spam started on our top bases (9.5+) resulting in 1 star after 1 star after 1 star, maybe a lucky 2 star here and there, and now they have stopped @ 45/60 attacks used. Most of the bigger 11's on their roster have gone.

    A small part of me jumps for joy when I think about making a bunch of roster manipulators throw in the towel. All things considered, it was a decent matchup. Their down fall was bad attacking (lavaloon spam). They even hit one of our weak th10's (with infernos) 6 times and have only managed 1 star from it. I was tempted to help them out in our clan description and tell them to try some other then lavaloon spam on our #8. Then realized the rest of their troops were pretty junky.
    Last edited by SuperStorm103; October 6th, 2017 at 08:36 PM.
    DeathStorm-10|22/23|2148*|FireStorm-10|17/20|2178*|SuperStorm-9|13/15|2147*
    DragonStorm-9|8/8|1529*|PerfectStorm-9|8/10|1428*|BrainStorm-10|10/16|1452*

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    Post the defense levels, hero/warden level, eagles or missing infernos, th lvs and then we can tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by WH7DX View Post
    Post the defense levels, hero/warden level, eagles or missing infernos, th lvs and then we can tell
    Are you talking to me?
    DeathStorm-10|22/23|2148*|FireStorm-10|17/20|2178*|SuperStorm-9|13/15|2147*
    DragonStorm-9|8/8|1529*|PerfectStorm-9|8/10|1428*|BrainStorm-10|10/16|1452*

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    Under the Assumption you are:

    US/Them

    Eagle 1:1

    Inferno 14:13

    Xbow 50:60

    Us:
    45/45/20
    45/45/20
    16/18/8
    23/30/9
    20/30/7

    Them:

    26/30/6
    21/22/5
    11/13/2
    16/15/7
    12/16/8
    5/5/7
    11/10/5
    10/13/7
    27/29/5
    7/12/7
    15/16/6
    8/10/5

    Our #22:



    Thier #22:



    @ #14 base weight is 66K (us) and 70K (them)

    That should be enough to tell you the story of the match, or at least the accuracy of my description. And they are bad attackers (when not double dipping)
    Last edited by SuperStorm103; October 6th, 2017 at 09:12 PM.
    DeathStorm-10|22/23|2148*|FireStorm-10|17/20|2178*|SuperStorm-9|13/15|2147*
    DragonStorm-9|8/8|1529*|PerfectStorm-9|8/10|1428*|BrainStorm-10|10/16|1452*

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