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    As far as a post about an 80% win rate reducing to 50% I'd suggest the book "Who Moved My Cheese" and let me know which one are you Hem, Haw, Sniff, or Scurry.
    I'll give the writing on the wall here:
    Change HappensThey Keep Moving The CheeseAnticipate ChangeGet Ready For The Cheese To MoveMonitor ChangeSmell The Cheese Often So You Know When It Is Getting OldAdapt To Change QuicklyThe Quicker You Let Go Of Old Cheese, The Sooner You Can Enjoy New CheeseChangeMove With The CheeseEnjoy Change!Savor The Adventure And Enjoy The Taste Of New Cheese!Be Ready To Change Quickly And Enjoy It AgainThey Keep Moving The Cheese.
    So typical: lecturing. Yes, The Almighty MrJackRabbit.

    What gave you the right to lecture me, Dear Sir?
    I am not saying I will not adapt. Did I complain about the mismatch?

    What I am arguing is the data request. Can we stay in one topic and not mixing it with the other 100 threads.
    What I am saying, there got to be an easier way to provide the same info.
    They are making millions of dollars a day, sure they can give us tools to make it easier to do the reporting.



    Changing topic:
    Let's actually talking about data. From your posting, it seems that you did get a balance match up
    I am so happy for you.

    But looking at the AaTeam data, that did not look like a balance match up.
    What say you?

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    Match #1 Under the September 27, 2017 Update

    In an effort to provide info on the current MM system, I will be posting on going detailed matches. This is not to complain about matches, it is only intended to provide information. I will provide major defense comparison, offense levels, and hero levels. You can assume the defense strength of the special villages based on their map position. An "m" next to the th # denotes Mini and "d" denotes defenseless. Us = Blue, Them = Red. TH=Town Hall, Army=Army Size, BK=Barb King, AQ=Archer Queen, GW=Grand Warden, BW=Base Weight.


    ____TH.__E I X B A G G W B W H D P D M M H V G W H B Army_BK AQ GW--BW-F
    .........A N B A R I O A A I E R E R I I O A O I O O
    ------------------R
    .........G F O R C A B L L Z A A K A N N G L L T U W
    ------------------E
    .........L E W B H N L L L A L G K G E I _ K E C N L
    ------------------E
    .........E R _ _ E T I B O R E O A O R O _ _ M H D E
    ------------------Z
    ........._ N _ _ R _ N R O D R N _ N _ N _ _ _ _ _ R
    ------------------E
    ........._ O _ _ _ _ _ E N _ _ _ _ B _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _


    Match #1 (1hr 15 Minute Search) Win Streak = 2
    2 (Best 91!)

    ----TH----E--I--X--B A G G W B W H D P D M M H V G W H B Army--BK--AQ--GW--BW-F

    #01-11----1--2--4--7-7-8-7-7-7-8-5-6-6-5-5-7-7-5-6-3-4-3-240---45--45--20-109-6
    #01-11----1--2--4--7-7-8-4-7-7-8-5-6-5-4-5-7-7-5-6-3-4-3-240---45--45--20-108-6


    #02-11----1--2--4--7-7-8-7-7-7-8-5-6-6-5-5-7-7-5-6-3-4-3-240---45--45--20-109-6
    #02-10-------2--4--7-7-7-7-7-7-8-5-1-5-5-5-1-5-5-5-3-4-3-240---40--44--20--91-6

    #03-11----1--2--4--7-7-7-7-6-6-7-4-6-6-4-4-7-6-5-6-3-4-3-240---40--41--20-106-5
    #03-10.5-----2--3--7-7-7-6-6-7-6-5-3-3-4-5-7-7-5-5-3-4-3-240---41--45--20--90-2

    #04-10.5-----2--3--7-7-7-7-6-7-7-5-5-5-4-5-6-6-5-6-3-4-3-240---41--44--18--90-5
    #04-10.5-----2--3--6-6-6-5-7-7-7-5-3-3-5-1-6-6-5-5-2-4-3-240---40--42--20--89-5


    #05-10-------2--3--6-7-7-7-6-6-7-4-5-5-4-3-6-6-5-5-2-3-2-240---40--40------90-5
    #05-10.5-----2--3--6-7-6-6-7-7-8-5-5-3-4-1-5-6-5-5-3-4-3-240---30--35--15--89-5

    #06-10-------2--3--7-7-7-6-6-6-7-4-5-5-4-3-5-6-5-5-2-3-2-240---18--20------85-5
    #06-10.5-----2--3--7-7-6-7-6-7-7-5-5-5-5-5-5-6-5-5-2-4-3-240---27--35--18--88-5


    #07-11m------1--4--6-6-6-4-5-7-6-5-3-3-1-5-4-6-5-4-3-4-3-240---18--21--20--84-6
    #07-10.5-----2--3--7-7-7-6-7-7-7-5-4-3-5-2-5-7-5-5-3-4-3-240---40--41--20--88-6

    #08-10-------2--3--6-6-6-6-5-6-6-4-5-3-3-3-4-6-4-4-2-3-2-240---26--26------83-4
    #08-10.5-----2--3--7-7-7-6-6-6-7-5-3-5-1-2-5-6-5-5-2-3-2-240---28--30--11--85-5

    #09-10----------2--7-7-7-6-6-6-7-4-5-3-4-3-6-6-5-5-2-3-2-240---40--40------75-5
    #09-11m---------2--7-7-7-7-6-6-7-4-4-3-3-2-5-6-5-5-3-3-3-240---40--43--16--74-5

    #10-10----------2--7-7-7-6-6-6-7-4-5-5-4-3-5-6-5-4-2-3-2-240---33--40------75-5
    #10-11m---------2--6-6-7-6-6-7-8-5-5-3-2-1-5-6-5-5-3-4-3-240---23--31--12--72-3

    #11-09----------2--6-6-6-6-5-6-6-4-4-3-2-0-5-5-4-4-2-2-0-220---30--30------70-1
    #11-09.5--------2--7-7-7-7-6-6-6-4-5-3-4-1-5-6-5-5-2-3-2-240---40--29------71-4


    #12-11m------------7-7-6-5-6-7-6-5-6-1-1-5-1-7-1-1-3-4-3-240---45--45--20--69-1
    #12-11m---------2--7-7-7-6-7-7-7-5-6-3-5-5-6-6-5-5-3-4-3-240---45--45--20--71-6

    #13-11m---------2--6-6-6-6-5-6-6-4-4-3-1-1-3-5-5-5-1-3-2-240---23--20---5--67-3
    #13-09.5--------2--7-7-7-6-5-6-6-4-4-3-4-2-5-6-5-4-2-3-1-240---30--30------71-5


    #14-09----------2--6-6-6-6-5-6-6-4-4-1-2-0-5-5-4-4-1-2-0-220---30--30------66-1
    #14-11m---------2--6-6-6-5-5-6-6-4-4-3-4-1-5-5-4-5-2-3-2-240---25--25---5--71-5

    #15-09----------2--5-5-6-5-5-5-6-4-2-2-1-0-2-5-4-4-1-1-0-220---11--15------64-1
    #15-09.5--------2--7-7-6-6-6-6-7-4-5-3-4-2-5-6-5-4-2-3-2-240---35--36------71-5

    #16-08.5-----------5-5-6-4-5-6-6-4-4-3-2-0-5-5-4-0-0-0-0-220---22--23------60-1
    #16-09.5--------2--5-6-7-5-6-6-7-4-4-3-4-0-5-6-5-5-1-3-1-240---16--30------70-4

    #17-08.5-----------5-5-5-5-5-6-5-3-3-3-1-0-3-4-2-2-1-2-0-220---10--10------59-1
    #17-09.5--------2--6-6-6-6-5-6-6-4-4-3-3-1-5-5-5-5-2-3-2-240---19--25------70-2

    #18-08-------------5-5-5-5-5-5-5-3-3-3-0-0-4-4-2-2-0-0-0-200---10----------54-0
    #18-09.5--------2--6-6-6-6-6-6-6-4-4-3-3-0-5-5-4-4-2-3-1-240---22--27------69-1

    #19-11m------------6-6-8-3-6-7-6-5-1-0-0-0-4-6-5-4-3-4-3-240---45--45--20--54-5
    #19-11m------------7-6-6-5-6-6-6-4-1-1-3-1-5-5-1-1-1-3-1-240---15--17---4--59-1

    #20-08-------------5-5-5-5-5-5-5-3-3-3-0-0-4-4-2-2-0-0-0-200---10----------52-0
    #20-10m------------6-6-6-6-5-6-6-4-1-1-3-3-4-5-1-2-1-1-1-240---19--16------55-1

    #21-10m------------6-6-4-1-3-1-5-1-0-0-0-0-1-1-4-0-0-0-0-220---16--16------39-1
    #21-8.5------------6-5-5-5-5-5-5-4-3-1-2-0-3-4-1-1-1-1-0-220---10---8------46-1


    #22-10m------------5-6-7-4-5-6-7-4-0-0-0-0-1-5-5-4-2-2-2-240---13--13------35-1
    #22-09m------------3-4-5-3-4-5-4-3-3-0-0-0-2-1-1-0-0-0-0-200----3----------35-1

    #23-11d------------7-7-8-1-7-7-8-5-6-1-5-4-5-1-3-1-1-4-3-240---45--45--20--33-6
    #23-09m------------4-4-5-3-4-5-5-3-3-1-0-0-2-2-1-1-0-0-0-205----8----------35-1


    #24-10d------------5-5-5-4-5-6-5-4-3-1-1-3-3-5-1-1-1-3-0-225---10--11------32-1
    #24-09d------------3-3-4-1-3-4-4-2-3-0-0-0-1-1-1-0-0-0-0-200----6---1------22-1

    #25-10d------------5-5-4-4-3-6-5-3-4-0-0-0-3-1-1-1-1-2-1-240---10---9------31-1
    #25-09d------------3-3-5-1-3-4-4-2-2-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-200----1----------21-1


    Total-----3-15-40---------------------------------------------676-674-163--1691

    Total-----1-16-46---------------------------------------------648-680-201--1711

    Darian, please advise on what other information in addition to this break down you might want. This my standard match data presentation. Are base weights okay? Or, do you really need individual defense levels? I have no problem providing data like this on a regular basis. I do it anyways. This was from our CWSF war where all accounts were accepted (probably the best test for the MMA). The majority of my future posts will be from my home clan, which is much less engineered.
    Last edited by SuperStorm103; October 4th, 2017 at 06:47 PM.
    DeathStorm-10|21/21|2090*|FireStorm-10|15/19|2110*|SuperStorm-9|10/14|2060*
    DragonStorm-9|4/5|1424*|PerfectStorm-9|5/7|1349*|BarkStorm-11|16/18/5|1300*
    BrainStorm
    -10|10/13|1367*

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by MrJackrabbit View Post
    To fill out the chart completely takes more time than I have. I have however filled out a lot of the useful info. As far as individual defenses go I'm sure that has to do with weighting each defense properly. I chose to fill out total weight based on gold if this is an inaccurate way to weigh Darian please let us know.
    TH BK AQ GW EA IT XB WT(K) TH BK AQ GW EA IT XB WT(K)
    1 11 45 45 20 2 5,5 5,5,5,5 109 11 45 45 20 2 5,5 5,5,5,5 109
    2 11 45 45 50 2 5,5 5,5,5,5 109 11 41 41 20 2 5,5 5,5,5,5 109
    3 11 27 31 20 1 3,3 4,4,3 104 11 31 40 20 2 5,4 4,4,4,4 104
    4 11 34 35 5 X 2,1 3,3,3 86 10 34 40 X X 3,3 4,4,4 89
    5 10 21 21 X X 3,2 4,3,3 85 10 20 35 X X 3,3 4,4,4 87
    6 10 20 21 X X 2,2 4,3,3 85 10 28 25 X X 3,2 4,3,3 85
    7 10 20 20 X X 3,3 4,4,4 84 10 30 33 X X 0,0 4,4,0 74
    8 10 27 30 X X 0,0 3,3,0 72 10 29 31 X X 0,0 3,3,0 72
    9 10 25 25 X X 0,0 3,3,0 70 10 23 40 X X 0,0 1,1,0 71
    10 10 25 26 X X 0,0 3,3,0 70 9 18 20 X X X 3,3 68
    11 9 19 20 X X X 1,1 65 9 17 18 X X X 3,3 66
    12 9 8 6 X X X 0,0 56 9 15 13 X X X 3,3 65
    13 8 10 X X X X X 52 9 20 20 X X X 0,0 64
    14 8 9 X X X X X 52 9 10 15 X X X 0,0 62
    15 8 9 X X X X X 49 8 10 X X X X X 54
    344 325 95 3 14 31 1148 371 416 60 1179
    ws 1 ws 0
    sc 38 sc 40

    You should have stopped here. This is when your post is useful. I can appreciate the time you spent on this data.
    If this data is sufficient for Darian to continue his sense-of-the-real-coc-community-feeling-on-the-latest-war-mm research, then I can support the data requests on this thread.

    Even tho, I still think there got to be an easier way to do it. 30-50 bases every 48 hours is just too much to ask, IMO

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    Why donít you just have times when war can be started? i.e. every 6 hours or 3 hours a war can be started so that the times remain constant which results in more clans being put out at a time and hopefully better matchups?
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    If they ever redesign the whole game using Microsoft paint, I'm sure there'll be a consulting job there for you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperStorm103 View Post
    Match #1 Under the September 27, 2017 Update

    Quick question: A "d" next to the th # denotes Defenseless??

    thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1400dragon View Post
    Quick question: A "d" next to the th # denotes Defenseless??

    thx
    Yes, I added that into the definitions.
    DeathStorm-10|21/21|2090*|FireStorm-10|15/19|2110*|SuperStorm-9|10/14|2060*
    DragonStorm-9|4/5|1424*|PerfectStorm-9|5/7|1349*|BarkStorm-11|16/18/5|1300*
    BrainStorm
    -10|10/13|1367*

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperStorm103 View Post
    Yes, I added that into the definitions.
    Did I miss the final score?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAaTeam View Post
    Did I miss the final score?
    I don't usually include the final score, but if your interested go here:

    https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...orum-United%29
    DeathStorm-10|21/21|2090*|FireStorm-10|15/19|2110*|SuperStorm-9|10/14|2060*
    DragonStorm-9|4/5|1424*|PerfectStorm-9|5/7|1349*|BarkStorm-11|16/18/5|1300*
    BrainStorm
    -10|10/13|1367*

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAaTeam View Post
    Did I miss the final score?
    Final score 58-54 victory

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperStorm103 View Post
    Yes, I added that into the definitions.
    thanks for arranging the event storm it was a lot of fun as always.
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    You failed to utilize the most effective strategy by not using the most available resources to affect your outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darian[Supercell] View Post
    Let's have a central repository for posting Clan War matchups....
    Just an observation... if the API was updated to return the list of buildings a player has built, there'd be websites up inside a day that could generate these tables automatically just on entry of a clan tag. I could probably code a website to generate such a table faster than I can manually record the details for a SINGLE war.
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