Collecting Clan War matchups...for science...and stuff!

[WH7DX]

And everyone saying the same thing..., the top matchups are crazy, 6 Th 11s to 3... 8 to 2 etc...

our current war prep... 3 max and near max with 3 eagles to our 1 max with eagle and a 96 and 91k weight non max without. This is a 10vs10 war lol

NO ONE is saying... their 10 had black walls and I have blue? No one cares. They care about the heavy hitters on top.

[TankSinatra]

Just an observation... if the API was updated to return the list of buildings a player has built, there'd be websites up inside a day that could generate these tables automatically just on entry of a clan tag. I could probably code a website to generate such a table faster than I can manually record the details for a SINGLE war.

No kidding. If SC can't handle the data they should buy out cocp.it or clashofstats. Agree with many above this is insulting, no way SC uses this for anything meaningful. So what's the point of this makework?

[Revo]

To make us think they are working on it. If they can't query their database to get a reading then there are major issues at SC.

[MrJackrabbit]

No kidding. If SC can't handle the data they should buy out cocp.it or clashofstats. Agree with many above this is insulting, no way SC uses this for anything meaningful. So what's the point of this makework?

To get people to stop comolaining on the forums about a mismatch based only on th level. If people want to say its a mismatch it is more than just th level so here input some more data and show us the mismatch. My guess into what sc is thinking.

[blombardo]

Let's have a central repository for posting Clan War matchups. This goes for both good and bad matchups. We refer to our own internal data driven information, but we also want to make sure this coincides with what the community is seeing as well.

Excellent -- Thank you -- but - This is not the best way to collect your data!

Before this progresses much more - you should make a GOOGLE SHEET - then a GOOGLE FORM -- then you can have players easily input the data into it -and submit it -- then you can run reports off the data collected easier than in forums here. you could add a link to the google form on the first topic then all this data could be easy for you to access.


OR you could create the google sheet and let people just copy/paste it into here.


I dont do this much - but here is my personal war tracker where I've audited a few wars.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing


I have 19 audits over the past year listed on there from a few clans using RedClouds arranged war sheet as the primary tool.

8-27 and 8-29 were the most recent ones - immediately after the MM changes 40 odd days ago.

These audits do not have all the data that your requesting; but they have the weight/heroes/and some offensive /defensive notes


you could use redclouds sheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

and modify it slightly


**you also forgot to ask for OFFENSIVE info... We all know witches / freeze and heal spells increase a players weight significantly - Dragons increase weight by 1k each - having max th11 --whatever - available should impact a war match in some ways and you should be asking for that data as well.



**There are auditing tools available to users for war - account data mining stuff - bots in Discord for example can pull a players clan history as well as other details on their research and profile... I'm sure you could get one of your IT people to spend 5 minutes making an easy button to click...

'click here - insert clan tag - open war log to the public and submit your war data with the click of a button'

[higgsbosons]

To make us think they are working on it. If they can't query their database to get a reading then there are major issues at SC.

Well let's start think a bit more then. I can't see any information about troop levels in the data request. Does this mean troops don't have any offensive weight? Due to the last announcements about matchmaking changes this would be a suprising fact. If they are part of the changed matchmaking, what sense would the table make?

[Pimmiepim]

Darian,

Thanks for taking action on the unbalanced matchmaking!

I saw many replies with questions about the why and how of your request and with suggestions on how to automate things.

I have the same questions and I strongly believe it could help / we could help better if we understand what exactly you're looking for and for which purpose. Just gathering data and creating a repository database will not be the ultimate goal, I assume. So what is the goal of this action? I also assume SC has lots of data already, so gathering the same data in an unstructured way by human beings, with a high probability of errors, might not be the smartest solution.

Would love to hear more about the background of your request, so we'll all be able to help out as good as we can, in order to get this mm unbalance resolved as soon as possible.

[jobob145]

Hey Darian, i think you should concentrate on doing the things SC already said they would do, not making up busy work for your players.

how about that public change log, with EVERY change in it (NO MORE HIDDEN STUFF), trackable for every release.
remember when you said they would put it out?

how about finding out why loons were changed (that was HIDDEN/UNPUBLISHED) several months ago that anoushka said would get right back to us

etc.. etc..

i could go quote staff posts on this stuff.. but it seems kind of pointless (like this thread)

thanks for trying though.

[2222]

Hey Darian, i think you should concentrate on doing the things SC already said they would do, not making up busy work for your players.

how about that public change log, with EVERY change in it (NO MORE HIDDEN STUFF), trackable for every release.
remember when you said they would put it out?

how about finding out why loons were changed (that was HIDDEN/UNPUBLISHED) several months ago that anoushka said would get right back to us

etc.. etc..

i could go quote staff posts on this stuff.. but it seems kind of pointless (like this thread)

thanks for trying though.

Totally unfair. Forum users were already posting war matchup results and talking about how they want SC to see them. Darian simply responded to what was already happening by creating a sticky thread to put them in.

[junaidd123]

Hey Darian see this thread https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...n-from-the-API