Collecting Clan War matchups...for science...and stuff!

[DeadlyForce]

Last 10 wars we lost 2 then won 2 then now we are on a 6 loss streak it's so depressing our team is completed deflated at this point. We've never lost more then 2 in a row. Our record is 351 w 99 losses it was 91 before this streak. I will try my best to get you a table of what's happening to us.

[SuperStorm103]

Last 10 wars we lost 2 then won 2 then now we are on a 6 loss streak it's so depressing our team is completed deflated at this point. We've never lost more then 2 in a row. Our record is 351 w 99 losses it was 91 before this streak. I will try my best to get you a table of what's happening to us.

I know a clan that was 451w 130L 5 draws who are on a 13 war loss streak with the 14th war a 100% draw, still not a win in 14 wars.

[gaborcz73]

Matchmaking is from my point of view the only problem of CoC. I completly deny to fill in the table as you suggest as it is NONSENSE. You try to complexly caculate totally simple formula. The key, and the only key, to the matmaking fair is very simple - if you REALLY want to fight engeneered bases. Either you have maxed defences, or you have maxed unit level - offence. Definitely one is higher then the other. You should consider the higher weight to be more important but must take into account that each cw participant has 2 attacks. So final formula should be: the weight of my to CW MAX(lvl of defence; lvl of offence (unit lvl)*2). 2 as you have two attack. This will stop engeneered bases. No complex calulation of defence - there are in fact small differences, but considering offensive streght weighted by 2 will solve the problem.

[StorErik]

We only do 10v10 wars (clan is quieter than quiet - but that is another story).... since the matchmaker changes we have lost 8 out of the last 11 wars. We used to have a 2.5-1 win/loss ratio prior to this. recently we are facing at least twice as many th11 max attack troop strength (varying hero levels) versus ours. Typically we have 1x maxed th11, 1-2 max defense th10's, 1xmid th10.5 (20's heroes, 5 warden), 1x mid th10, 1-2x th9.5, a few maxed defense th9's with mid heroes and a number maker upperer th5 at the bottom.
War is the only thing keeping our clan alive..... the glut of th11's carrying th9 or th8 defenses in such low number wars is killing us. Morale is lower than low.... almost worse than the dec2015 love fest. Please supercell, fix this now.... don't know how you will do it - but it had better be quick. Our clan has been around since oct 2013.... we have been warring since day one.... if you are trying to squeeze out your old school players, you are going the right way about it.

edit: by the way, your table does not take into account the troop levels that engineered th8.11, th9.11 etc bring into battle. In a small war, a side with th11 troops and mid level heroes can roll a th10 with max defenses if they know what they are doing. At least they will get high % 2 star.... which is more than a th10 will typically get. Propper th10 vs th10 3 star attacks are rare unless the base design is useless.

[OnyxDS]

I know a clan that was 451w 130L 5 draws who are on a 13 war loss streak with the 14th war a 100% draw, still not a win in 14 wars.

What on earth sort of composition did they use to have a swing like that with the MM change?

[SuperStorm103]

What on earth sort of composition did they use to have a swing like that with the MM change?

Ill send you a link on Discord.

[HulaGirl]

I'm just tired of the MM. Post update, we've been matched to more low defense TH11s with warden than ever before. Our war log prior to MM change was a sea of green, now it's a sea of red. We are a casual clan and we normally let everyone who wants to war in. I don't believe we should have to pick and choose who should war for better matching. We have a couple of minimax TH9s and low level fillers to make numbers so everyone can war.

Our last war:

#1 - MAX TH11 to MAX TH11

#2 - TH10 max defense & offense 30/30 (88 def weight) to TH10.5 max Bowlers, Hound, Witch, Loon, Healer, 30/45/18 (no eagle, lvl 3 IF, 92 def weight)

#3 - TH10 mid defense & partial max offense 25/26 (85 def weight) to TH10.5 max Bowlers, Hound, Witch, Healer, 28/35/18 (no eagle, no IF, 74 def weight)

#4 down TH9 to TH7 (we had better TH9s)

They had so many attacks left, they left 5 unused and a TH10.5 actually went to hit a new TH8. While we did amazing at attacks, we tied and lost by .20%

This War:

#1 - MAX TH11 to TH11 defense max, mostly all offense max 40/40/20

#2 - Mid/High TH11 40/43/20 to Mid/High TH11 30/32/20

#3 & #4 - TH10s, fairly even, slightly in our favor on #4

#5 - Mid TH10 25/26 to rushed TH11 21/20 (mostly TH9 defenses with infernos)

#6 and down on our end is TH9 to TH7.

Enemy #9 - TH11 - Max LaLoon 27/32/15, TH8 defenses with TH9 Air D,
Enemy #10 - TH11 - Max Dragloon, Miners, 27/27/20, minimal defenses (level 3 cannon & level 2 air d & sweeper) but I assume Max teslas and traps

This is not unwinnable, it is just annoying that they will have the bully attacks or more attacks on our top bases.

Do we run with engineered th9s? yes. Do we use low end fillers? yes. So for those that want to say we got out engineered, that's fine, not gonna argue that point. These are 10v and 15v wars. We aren't having long searches, 15-30 minutes, so MM is obviously seeing us as even.

The MM is so dramatically different, it really is a roll of a dice. We had a couple fair ones, equal TH to TH, but when we get the mismatch, it's terrible the TH11 with warden disadvantage.

My clan takes in all in stride as best we can. We always give a good fight no matter who the opponent. We're just waiting for the next round of small adjustments, maybe by next year, these changes might add up to something good????

[SuperStorm103]

I'm just tired of the MM. Post update, we've been matched to more low defense TH11s with warden than ever before. Our war log prior to MM change was a sea of green, now it's a sea of red. We are a casual clan and we normally let everyone who wants to war in. I don't believe we should have to pick and choose who should war for better matching. We have a couple of minimax TH9s and low level fillers to make numbers so everyone can war.

Our last war:

#1 - MAX TH11 to MAX TH11

#2 - TH10 max defense & offense 30/30 (88 def weight) to TH10.5 max Bowlers, Hound, Witch, Loon, Healer, 30/45/18 (no eagle, lvl 3 IF, 92 def weight)

#3 - TH10 mid defense & partial max offense 25/26 (85 def weight) to TH10.5 max Bowlers, Hound, Witch, Healer, 28/35/18 (no eagle, no IF, 74 def weight)

#4 down TH9 to TH7 (we had better TH9s)

They had so many attacks left, they left 5 unused and a TH10.5 actually went to hit a new TH8. While we did amazing at attacks, we tied and lost by .20%

This War:

#1 - MAX TH11 to TH11 defense max, mostly all offense max 40/40/20

#2 - Mid/High TH11 40/43/20 to Mid/High TH11 30/32/20

#3 & #4 - TH10s, fairly even, slightly in our favor on #4

#5 - Mid TH10 25/26 to rushed TH11 21/20 (mostly TH9 defenses with infernos)

#6 and down on our end is TH9 to TH7.

Enemy #9 - TH11 - Max LaLoon 27/32/15, TH8 defenses with TH9 Air D,
Enemy #10 - TH11 - Max Dragloon, Miners, 27/27/20, minimal defenses (level 3 cannon & level 2 air d & sweeper) but I assume Max teslas and traps

This is not unwinnable, it is just annoying that they will have the bully attacks or more attacks on our top bases.

Do we run with engineered th9s? yes. Do we use low end fillers? yes. So for those that want to say we got out engineered, that's fine, not gonna argue that point. These are 10v and 15v wars. We aren't having long searches, 15-30 minutes, so MM is obviously seeing us as even.

The MM is so dramatically different, it really is a roll of a dice. We had a couple fair ones, equal TH to TH, but when we get the mismatch, it's terrible the TH11 with warden disadvantage.

My clan takes in all in stride as best we can. We always give a good fight no matter who the opponent. We're just waiting for the next round of small adjustments, maybe by next year, these changes might add up to something good????

Sorry for the rough matches Mieko. Hang in there please . CWSF war is coming up in 4 days. Hope to see you there. Maybe I can pop over after for a few wars and have a look see.

[HulaGirl]

Sorry for the rough matches Mieko. Hang in there please . CWSF war is coming up in 4 days. Hope to see you there. Maybe I can pop over after for a few wars and have a look see.

Just venting for the most part. We have a mish mosh of bases, we are not full maxers, not full engineered, falling in between somewhere. Don't think we are super unusual, just don't know what in our line-up pulls these extra warden opponents. We don't have a huge advantage on top to mitigate the differential. Come by anytime. I'm too lazy to do any sort of in depth analysis lol.

[SuperStorm103]

Just venting for the most part. We have a mish mosh of bases, we are not full maxers, not full engineered, falling in between somewhere. Don't think we are super unusual, just don't know what in our line-up pulls these extra warden opponents. We don't have a huge advantage on top to mitigate the differential. Come by anytime. I'm too lazy to do any sort of in depth analysis lol.

Meant I would participate in a few .