Collecting Clan War matchups...for science...and stuff!

[TankSinatra]

Five days no follow up. No answer to reasonable questions as to why players need to input data that SC already has. No answer as to how this data could possibly be relevant given its missing the offense half of the equation. Can't just stir the pot once & walk away.

Darian I think your time would be much better spent putting up a sticky, with numbered bullet points, about common matchmaking misconceptions we can point fresh spawns to.
Like, "N1. Bases are not matched to their mirror. It is incorrect to say 'my th8 was matched to a th11."
"N2. Strict townhall matching cannot work. The war pool is huge, but would need to be an order of magnitude larger to allow exact matching by townhall."

[ReplicantRachel]

Five days no follow up. No answer to reasonable questions as to why players need to input data that SC already has. No answer as to how this data could possibly be relevant given its missing the offense half of the equation. Can't just stir the pot once & walk away.

Darian I think your time would be much better spent putting up a sticky, with numbered bullet points, about common matchmaking misconceptions we can point fresh spawns to.
Like, "N1. Bases are not matched to their mirror. It is incorrect to say 'my th8 was matched to a th11."
"N2. Strict townhall matching cannot work. The war pool is huge, but would need to be an order of magnitude larger to allow exact matching by townhall."

A Clan War FAQ sticky would be nice to have, although not many people read it when we used to have it though

[nobeone]

A table on war matches with no offense other than heros? Well there we are, no wonder it is all so broken ...

Seriously, just ask us for a one line comment on what we think of a match we want to report as poor and let us add the clan tags of the match, you write the software to scrape the details from there. This is a waste of our time and yours, you aren't even collecting the right data from us. How many walls of what lvl, ha ha ha, try none, not a bean, a single lvl 1 cannon but max dragons a full set of lightning and quake and a gw against balanced bases?

[Clark11308]

Darian, you say SC has all the data already but you want player perspective. I thought all the DEVS had accounts they played like normal people. I understand they may have some biases that would be nice to avoid. If they really are regular players scattered among the community they shouldn't need this sticky. Just trying to figure out your angle, what your really after. I'm struggling to figure this out to be honest. Can't for the life of me figure out why you want this community feedback now when its been offered for years. And ignored for years. Almost seems like your easing a white flag because your just plain stumped as to what's wrong.

[SuperStorm103]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea7omjEDBx4

smh

Linking this video as it has good video evidence of current perspective on match ups. If only I was much better at making videos.

Also, the last match detailed in this video is very very very similar to my current war match.

[JanoLapin]

I'm sorry but I won't list all the defenses and all that jazz, but here is our current war:

Us:
1 - TH11 43/45/15 EA 2 ITs 4
2 - TH10 40/36 max defs
3 - TH10 28/40 max defs
4 - TH10 40/40 mid/high defs, ITs 3
5 - TH10 32/35 mid/high defs, ITs 3
6 - TH10 40/40 mid/high defs, ITs 1 max walls
7 - TH10 34/35 low/mid defs, ITs 3
8 - TH10 30/31 TH9 defs, no ITs, 230 army camp
9 - TH9 30/30 max
10 - TH9 30/30 max
11 - TH9 30/30 max
12 - TH9 25/26 max
13 - TH9 17/20 max
14 - TH9 13/13 max
15 - TH9 10/10 TH8 defs, level 1 xbows, still missing his air defense and WT, a 8.5 upgrading to TH9 in other words

Them:
1 - TH11 20/21/12 EA 2 ITs 4
2 - TH11 31/38/9, no EA, ITs 3 (max TH10 defs), max bowlers
3 - TH11 20/30/9, no EA, max TH10 defs, max laloon
4 - TH11 22/22/2, no EA, max TH10 defs, no TH11 troops yet
5 - TH10 21/28 max defs
6 - TH10 15/15 max defs
7 - TH10 25/30 low/mid defs, ITs 3
8 - TH11 13/14/11, no EA, no ITs, mid TH10 defs, max laloon
9 - TH11 17/22/10, no EA, no ITs, low/mid TH10 defs, max laloon/bowlers/dragons
10 - TH9 20/21 max
11 - TH10 13/10, TH9 max defs, no TH10/camps/spells yet
12 - TH11 10/10/1 weird looking thing with a mix of maxed TH9/TH10 defs, no xbows, max balloons, level 3 hounds, level 5 dragons
13 - TH11 10/10/5, TH8/9/10 defs without xbows, max balloons and dragons
14 - TH9 10/9 basically a TH8 with maxed TH9 defs
15 - TH6

I'm not arguing over the balance of the match, I could care less about the result. I just want our members to have fun, which is not the case.

PS: they are failing to clear TH9s with max laloon

[SuperStorm103]

I'm sorry but I won't list all the defenses and all that jazz, but here is our current war:

Us:
1 - TH11 43/45/15 EA 2 ITs 4
2 - TH10 40/36 max defs
3 - TH10 28/40 max defs
4 - TH10 40/40 mid/high defs, ITs 3
5 - TH10 32/35 mid/high defs, ITs 3
6 - TH10 40/40 mid/high defs, ITs 1 max walls
7 - TH10 34/35 low/mid defs, ITs 3
8 - TH10 30/31 TH9 defs, no ITs, 230 army camp
9 - TH9 30/30 max
10 - TH9 30/30 max
11 - TH9 30/30 max
12 - TH9 25/26 max
13 - TH9 17/20 max
14 - TH9 13/13 max
15 - TH9 10/10 TH8 defs, level 1 xbows, still missing his air defense and WT, a 8.5 upgrading to TH9 in other words

Them:
1 - TH11 20/21/12 EA 2 ITs 4
2 - TH11 31/38/9, no EA, ITs 3 (max TH10 defs), max bowlers
3 - TH11 20/30/9, no EA, max TH10 defs, max laloon
4 - TH11 22/22/2, no EA, max TH10 defs, no TH11 troops yet
5 - TH10 21/28 max defs
6 - TH10 15/15 max defs
7 - TH10 25/30 low/mid defs, ITs 3
8 - TH11 13/14/11, no EA, no ITs, mid TH10 defs, max laloon
9 - TH11 17/22/10, no EA, no ITs, low/mid TH10 defs, max laloon/bowlers/dragons
10 - TH9 20/21 max
11 - TH10 13/10, TH9 max defs, no TH10/camps/spells yet
12 - TH11 10/10/1 weird looking thing with a mix of maxed TH9/TH10 defs, no xbows, max balloons, level 3 hounds, level 5 dragons
13 - TH11 10/10/5, TH8/9/10 defs without xbows, max balloons and dragons
14 - TH9 10/9 basically a TH8 with maxed TH9 defs
15 - TH6

I'm not arguing over the balance of the match, I could care less about the result. I just want our members to have fun, which is not the case.

PS: they are failing to clear TH9s with max laloon

Sounds about par for the course with a lineup like that (talking about the opposing clan). No basic attack skills other then knowing how to drop troops. They are relying purely on matchmaking manipulation to provide 100% double dip scenarios.

Our last war was against the same type of clan and we smoked em. Again no attack skills, just spray and pray tactics. In fact, we had them beat so bad they thew in the towel and didn't even use their other th11 hits. I think it was something like 5 th11 for us to 13 th11 for them. Though we won, it was still not a good match, because if they actually knew out to attack, it would have been a different story.

[JanoLapin]

Thank god I don't have any account in that war (my th9s and th10 are opted out because of this kind of wars). Lucky me I'm in a full th11 war where one of the enemy was caught using one of our layouts as a farming village before attacking it. Good times.

Sorry for the off-topic, but both of our clans are depressed, I had to let it go somewhere.

[Rebecca00]

Linking this video as it has good video evidence of current perspective on match ups. If only I was much better at making videos. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea7omjEDBx4

Also, the last match detailed in this video is very very very similar to my current war match.

This video seems to sum it all up. The matches he reports are virtually identical to what we’re seeing and it sounds like many are reporting the same. His narrative is perfect, too. I think he made virtually every point maxer war clans have brought up.

Another good point was offered....where are the responses from SuperCell?? I think I’m on a banned list; “contact us” won’t contact me. Can’t decide if this is a case of the emperor not having any close or more of a wizard of oz thing. Whatever the case, the lack of response is aggravating.

Just got our butts kicked by the latest engineered clan we faced. One war win streak, 20 minute search, no engineers on our roster. We have one 11 and they have 5 including a maxed TH11 anchor. All enemy 11s have big heroes and two are even actual .1 bases. It’s a 20x20and the 17 three starred our 6, a nascent 10.

Like the video above, I’d welcome anyone to come and look at our war log to see how broken this system is.

[Tomville]

Argh, we just spun another war using our same clan style lineup of 9 th11 and a max th10, the only significant difference being the eagle upgrade to level 2 finished on our smallest 2 th11 from last match before the spin, and one of the max th11 out replaced by a smaller new one (level 4 inferno, upgraded Tesla only, level 20 warden). After last 2 wars getting awful matchups that were unfair to our poor enemies with 8 th11 and 2 th9, then 7 th11 with 3 th9 we now have an enemy with... wait for it... 8 th11 the smallest of which is a baby smaller than ours with a level 4 warden only, 1 baby th10 with level 1 infernos, and a th9.

It’s quite odd taking a th10 to war so fully expecting that we’d be the ones most likely to be outgunned by a match to all th11 clan, only to find these matches instead.

Full base details will follow later.