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    We just finished another war against a bunch of muppets with a engineered line up and for the icing on the cake we are a level 5 clan and we got matched with a level 10. I just wanted to ask why are rushed players supported by the game? Its pathetic the lengths some people go to do this. You should not even be able to progress a town hall if you havent A: made all the buildings and B: upgraded them!! I believe the matchmaking process is overdone with this 'attack strength' garbage and needs to be simplified. For example this would be much better: no war opposition will have a higher level top player than your own and from there down use a simple average of base levels. If you are a rushed muppet then its tough cookies... Anyone care to discuss or explain this?

    Are there no real gamers left anymore?

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    In the interest of cooperation I've been trying to record some data as you want it. I have to say it takes AGES.

    I've added 4 columns below for troops - because often this is what we perceive to be the problem. These relate to the number of significant troops maxed for TH11 or 10. By significant I mean all except barch, wb, goblin, minion. The first column is the number of max TH11 troops. The second is the same, but excluding those which are available at TH10 (ie valks). 3rd column is the number of max TH10 (or better) troops. 4th is the same but excludes any at TH9 levels. I've highlighted the 2 columns of TH11/10 max troops excluding those available at lower levels.

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    # TH AQ BK GW Sig Max troop … Exc valks Sig TH10 max troop ...Exc TH9 witch, loon, healer EA IT Xbow Can Mort Wiz AT AD Tesla BT Air S Walls
    1 11 45 41 20 12 11 13 13 2 2x4 4x5 7x15 4x10 5x10 8x15 4x9 4x9 2x5 2x6 40% 11, 60% 10
    2 11 (new) 40 40 5 1 14 11 0 2x3 3x4 6x13 4x8 4x9 7x13 4x8 4x8 2x4 2x6 Level 11, about 10 lvl 12
    3 10 31 28 1 14 11 2x3 3x4 6x13 3x7, 1x8 4x8 7x13 4x8 4x8 2x3 2x5 30% 11, 70% 10
    4 10 35 30 1 14 11 0 3x4 6x13 4x8 4x9 7x13 4x8 4x8 1x2,1x3 2x6 90% 11, 10% 10
    5 10 40 40 1 13 10 0 3x4 6x13 4x7 3x8,1x9 7x13 4x8 4x8 2x2 1x6,1x5 75% 11, 20% 10, 5% 1
    6 10 33 23 1 11 8 0 3x3 6x12 4x8 4x8 2x13,5x12 4x8 4x8 1x3? 2x6 80% 10, 20% 9
    7 10 35 23 1 10 7 0 2x3 5x13 4x7 4x7 6x13 4x8 4x8 1x3 2x5 50% 10, 50% 9, 1% 11
    8 9 12 10 3 2x2 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x3 2x5 95% 9, 5% 8
    9 9 6 10 2 2x2 5x11 4x7 4x6 2x11,4x10 4x7 2x7,1x5,1x5 1x2 1x2,1x1 20% 9, 80% 8
    10 9 11 10 3 1x1? 5x11 4x6 1x7,3x6 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x3 2x4 30% 9, 70% 8
    11 9 15 15 2 0 5x11 4x7 3x7? 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x3 2x5 30% 10, 70% 9
    12 9 17 15 3 0 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x2 2x4 10% 10, 90% 9
    13 9 30 19 2 0 5x10 4x6 1x7,3x6 2x11,4x10 4x6 4x6? 1x2 2x4 All 10
    14 9 3 10 1 0 1x11,4x10 4x6 3x6 5x10 4x7 3x7,1x3 1x2 1x4 All 8
    15 9 17 18 2 0 5x11 0 4x3 6x11 4x7 4x7 0 2x4 Various
    16 8 10 5x10 4x6 3x6 5x10 3x6 3x6 1x2 1x4 All 8
    17 8 10 5x10 4x6 3x6 5x10 3x6 3x6 1x2 1x4 75% 8, 25% 7
    18 8 5 5x10 4x6 3x6 5x10 3x6 3x5 1x2 1x3 All 7
    19 8 6 5x10 4x6 3x6 5x10 3x6 3x6 0 1x4 55% 8, 45% 7
    20 8 7 5x9 1x6,2x5? 2x4 4x10 3x5 2x3 0 1x3 Max TH7 + new @ 5

    (Apparently the post with both tables in is too long, so I'll need to continue this in another post)...

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    # TH AQ BK GW Sig Max troop … Exc valks Sig TH10 max troop ...Exc TH9 witch, loon, healer EA IT Xbow Can Mort Wiz AT AD Tesla BT Air S Walls
    1 11 30 30 20 9 8 13 13 2 2x3 4x4 7x14 4x10 3x10,2x9 8x14 4x9 4x9 2x5 2x6 90% 9, 10% 8
    2 11 41 45 15 6 5 14 14 2x3 3x4 6x13 4x8 4x9 1x14,6x13,1x10 4x9 4x9 2x4 2x6 97% 11, 3% 10
    3 10 40 40 1 14 11 2x3 3x4 6x12 4x8 2x8,2x7 1x13,5x12,1x11 4x8 4x8 2x2 2x5 60% 11, 40% 10
    4 10 24 21 1 6 3 1x2,1x1 1x4,2x3 4x12,2x11 4x7 4x7 3x12,4x11 1x8,3x7 2x8,2x7? 2x3 2x5 90% 10, 9% 11, 1% lower
    5 11 27 28 9 1 11 8 0 0 2x4 5x13 4x8 4x9 6x13 1x9,3x8 4x8 1x3 2x6 Max TH11
    6 10 25 21 0 4 2 0 3x3 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 1x8,3x7 1x3 2x5 95% 10, 5% 9
    7 10 26 27 0 10 7 0 2x3 2x12,3x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x8 4x8 1x3 2x5 15% 11, 85% 9
    8 9 23 22 3 2x3 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x3 2x5 95% 10, 5% 9
    9 9 14 14 2 2x3 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x3 2x5 25% 9, 75% 8
    10 9 13 10 2 2x3 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x3 2x5 15% 9, 85% 8
    11 9 10 12 3 2x3 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x3 2x5 20% 9, 80% 8
    12 9 11 12 2 2x3 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x2 1x4,1x3 40% 9, 60% 8
    13 9 12 13 2 2x3 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x2 2x3 All 9
    14 9 10 11 2 2x3 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x1 2x3 60% 9, 40% 8
    15 11 14 13 5 1 (dragons) 1 1 (dragons) 1 0 0 1x2 5x6 4x5 3x3 4x6 2x9,2x8 2x9,2x8 1x2 2x5 No walls
    16 10 10 10 1 (dragons) 1 0 0 5x9 3x6 2x7 4x10 3x8,1x7 4x7 1x2 2x4 All 7, about TH7/8 number
    17 11 4 7 2 0 1 (dragons) 1 0 0 5x8 4x5 2x4 4x8 3x5 2x3? 0? 1x2,1x1 All 7, about TH7/8 number
    18 7 0 3x8 2x4 2x3 3x7 2x4 2x1 1x2 85% 6, 15% 1
    19 6 3x6 2x3 1x2,1x1 3x6 1x3,1x2 1x1 75% 6, 25% 5
    20 10 3 5 1 (dragons) 1 1 Mighty Cannon No walls

    Our win streak at start:0. Their unknown, but I think it was either 0 or 1.
    Result was a 56-56 win to us. I wouldn't say the score is particularly informative as neither side achieved the score they should/could have.
    Our impression: defence is similar, albeit a bit lumpy. They have an extra inferno base; but their 9.5s were weaker. They were then MUCH stronger at TH9 (all our decent TH9s were opted out and we were very weak there), and then they had some junk at the bottom - which is irrelevant.
    We have slightly better total royals (about 370 vs 340 on each), but not a huge difference. However they have an extra big TH11 attack. And an extra account with warden and level 6 dragons. In total they have 5 wardens: you could disregard the level 2, and their warden at #5 sort of matches our #2 (lower warden with TH10 troop levels).
    So we have 1 TH11 attacker and 4 inferno targets; they have 2 big TH11s and just 3 inferno targets, and a TH11 dragon only account that gives them essentially 2 free hits on any base #4 downwards. Plus numerous TH10 engineered dragon accounts to take out any TH9s on our side.

    This was by no means an awful match - but is absolutely characteristic of what we are seeing every war: the enemy has similar defences, and somewhat similar offence, except for a few extra TH11 attacks thrown in apparently for free. With few TH11s and plenty of TH10s these can be devastating.

    I also recorded the war before this, which I'll put in another (pair of) posts...

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    This is actually the previous war which I recorded at the time but didn't get round to tidying up and posting.

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    # TH AQ BK GW Sig Max troop … Exc valks Sig TH10 max troop ...Exc TH9 witch, loon, healer EA IT Xbow Can Mort Wiz AT AD Tesla BT Air S Walls
    1 11 45 41 20 12 11 13 13 2 2x4 4x5 7x15 4x10 5x10 8x15 4x9 4x9 2x5 2x6 40% 11, 60% 10
    2 11 45 45 20 11 10 13 13 0 2x3 3x4, 1x2 6x13, 1x12 4x8 4x9,1x7 7x13,1x11 4x8 4x9 2x5 2x6 Max
    3 11 (new) 40 40 4 1 14 11 0 2x3 3x4 6x13 4x8 4x9 7x13 4x8 4x8 2x4 2x6 All 11
    4 10 31 28 1 14 11 2x3 3x4 6x13 3x7, 1x8 4x8 7x13 4x8 4x8 2x3 2x5 30% 11, 70% 10
    5 10 35 30 1 14 11 0 3x4 6x13 4x8 4x9 7x13 4x8 4x8 1x2,1x3 2x6 90% 11, 10% 10
    6 10 40 40 1 13 10 0 3x4 6x13 4x7 3x8,1x9 7x13 4x8 4x8 2x2 1x6,1x5 75% 11, 20% 10, 5% 1
    7 10 40 40 1 12 9 0 2x3,1x1 6x13 4x7 4x8 7x13 4x8 4x8 1x3? 2x5 All 11
    8 10 36 34 1 10 7 0 2x3 5x13,1x12 4x7 4x8 7x13 4x8 4x8 2x2 2x5 48% 11, 48% 10, 4% 6
    9 10 30 25 1 8 5 0 2x3 6x11 4x7 4x7 4x12,3x11 2x8,2x7 1x8,3x7 1x3 2x5 1% 11, 99% 10
    10 10 25 25 1 8 5 0 2x4 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x3 2x5 All 10
    11 9 21 25 3 2x2 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x3 2x5 50% 10, 50% 9
    12 10 21 19 0 4 1 0 2x1 5x12 4x6 4x6 6x13 4x7 4x8 1x1 2x4 20% 9, 80% 8
    13 9 12 10 3 2x2 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x3 2x5 95% 9, 5% 8
    14 9 11 10 3 1x1? 5x11 4x6 1x7,3x6 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x3 2x4 30% 9, 70% 8
    15 9 17 15 3 0 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x2 2x4 10% 10, 90% 9
    16 9 15 15 2 0 5x11 4x7 3x7? 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x3 2x5 30% 10, 70% 9
    17 9 5 6 0 1x2,1x1 3x10,3x9 4x5 1x6,3x5 3x10,3x9 2x6,2x5 1x4,3x3 1x1 1x1? Approx all 7
    18 9 3 10 1 0 1x11,4x10 4x6 3x6 5x10 4x7 3x7,1x3 1x2 1x4 All 8
    19 9 17 18 2 0 5x11 0 4x3 6x11 4x7 4x7 0 2x4 Various
    20 9 16 17 2 0 5x11 0 4x3 6x11 4x7 4x7 0 1x4? Various
    21 8 10 5x10 4x6 3x6 5x10 3x6 3x6 1x2 1x4 75% 8, 25% 7
    22 8 10 5x10 4x6 3x6 5x10 3x6 3x5 1x2 1x4 70% 8, 30% 7
    23 8 5 5x10 4x6 3x6 5x10 3x6 3x5 1x2 1x3 All 7
    24 8 6 5x10 4x6 3x6 5x10 3x6 3x6 0 1x4 55% 8, 45% 7
    25 8 7 5x9 1x6,2x5? 2x4 4x10 3x5 2x3 0 1x3 Max TH7 + new @ 5

    (to be continued due to character limit)

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    # TH AQ BK GW Sig Max troop … Exc valks Sig TH10 max troop ...Exc TH9 witch, loon, healer EA IT Xbow Can Mort Wiz AT AD Tesla BT Air S Walls
    1 11 40 40 20 9 8 13 13 0 2x5 4x5 7x14 4x8 4x9,1x8 8x15 4x8 4x9 2x4 2x5 All 10
    2 11 39 31 20 8 7 10 10 0 2x5 4x5 7x14 4x7 2x10,3x9 8x15 4x9 4x9 2x3 2x5 95% 10, 5% 11
    3 11 30 28 12 7 6 11 11 0 0 4x5 1x14,6x13 4x8 5x9 8x13 3x9,1x8 4x9 2x4 2x5 75% 10, 20% 11, 5% 9
    4 11 19 15 10 5 4 9 8 0 0 4x4 4x12,3x11 4x7 1x8,4x7 1x13,6x12,1x11 4x8 4x9 2x2 2x5 All 9
    5 11 28 30 12 6 5 8 8 0 0 2x5,1x2,1x1 1x12,4x11,1x10,1x7 4x7 1x9,3x8,1x3 1x15,6x14,1x7 4x9 4x9 1x3? 2x5 Max TH9 + level 6 for new walls
    6 10 34 20 1 9 6 0 3x4 6x13 4x8 4x9 7x13 4x8 4x8 2x4 2x6 65% 11, 35% 10
    7 10 38 33 1 9 6 0 3x4 6x12 4x8 2x9,2x8 7x12 4x8 4x8 1x4,1x1 2x6 65% 11, 35% 10
    8 11 12 8 10 3 2 5 4 0 0 2x5,2x4 5x11,1x7,1x5 4x7 4x7,1x4 6x12,2x7 4x8 4x7 1x3,1x1 2x5 95% 9, 5% 8
    9 10 31 14 1 9 7 0 3x4 5x13,1x12 4x8 4x9 7x13 4x8 4x8 2x4 2x5 65% 11, 30% 10, 5% 9
    10 11 10 10 5 2 1 9 7 0 0 3x4 5x13,1x12,1x5 4x8 4x9 7x12,1x6 4x8 4x8 2x2 2x5 80% 9, 20% 8
    11 10 27 18 1 8 6 0 3x4 5x12,1x11 4x7 4x7 7x12 4x8 4x8 1x3? 2x5 95% 10, 5% 11
    12 10 20 16 1 5 3 0 3x4 6x12 4x7 4x7 1x12,6x11 4x8 4x8 2x2 2x4 95% 9, 5% 10
    13 10 16 11 1 6 4 0 3x4 1x13,5x12 4x7 4x8 7x12 4x7 4x8 1x2 2x4 90% 9, 10% 8
    14 9 18 12 3 2x3 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x3 2x5 75% 10, 25% 9
    15 9 18 12 3 2x3 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x3 2x5 75% 10, 25% 9
    16 9 11 10 3 2x2 5x11 4x6 1x7,3x6 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x2 2x4 20% 9, 80% 8
    17 11 15 10 15 2 2 4 4 0 0 1x1? 5x10 4x6 1x7,3x6 6x10 4x6 4x5 1x1 2x1 50% 9, 50% 8
    18 9 12 10 1 2x3 2x11,3x10 4x6 3x7,1x3 5x10,1x6 3x6,1x2 2x7,1x6,1x? 1x2 2x4 50% 9, 50% 8
    19 9 13 10 1 2x2 5x10 4x6 4x7 1x11,5x10 4x6 3x6? 1x2 2x4 25% 9, 75% 8
    20 9 8 8 1 2x3 5x11 4x7 3x6 5x11 3x5 3x5? 0 1x1? 30% 8, 65% 7, 5% 1
    21 9 10 10 2 0 5x11 4x7 4x7 6x11 4x7 4x7 1x3 2x5 25% 9, 75% 8
    22 11 8 9 5 1 1 2 2 0 0 0 5x10 1x5,3x5 2x6,2x5 2x11,3x10 4x7 2x7,1x6,1x5 0 2x3 10% 8, 90% 7
    23 8 10 5x10 4x6 3x6 5x10 3x6 3x6 1x2 1x4 30% 8, 70% 7
    24 10 10 10 3 2 0 0 5x8 3x5 2x4 4x8 3x5 1x7,2x6? 0 1x4 95% 8, 5% higher
    25 8 10 5x10 4x6 3x6 5x10 2x6,1x5 3x6 1x1 1x2 25% 8, 75% 7

    We started this on a WS of 2, and I think they were similar, and we lost this one.

    Our impressions: defences are again not far off equivalent, but lumpy. We have an extra eagle on #1, although it's not relevant as neither clan was really in a position to try to 3*. We have 2 extra sets of infernos at #3&4 - however their point defences were substantially stronger on some upper bases negating much of the advantage. They also had several extra "9.5" defensive bases - ie infernoless but well in excess of a TH9, so requiring a TH10 attack, and ultimately that's what sank us. I don't remember how the TH9 defences compared but neither side had any problem clearing those (10 down our side, 14 down their side), so they were basically irrelevant.

    The big problem is again on offence. We had 2 big TH11 attacks, plus a new one that's effectively TH10 still. So 2 bases with TH11 troops and wardens; and 8 more with at least 1 TH10 max troop, totalling 10. Whereas they had 9 bases with 1 or more max TH11 troops, all with GW 5+; and a total of 16 bases with some TH10-max troops.

    The total number of TH10 max troops listed in my table isn't very much higher for them. But they have upgraded 2, 3 or 4 troops on numerous bases, which they could then spam. Whereas all our TH10s were upgrading all troops, so apart from the bottom few had fairly complete sets. The enemy are only spamming 2 or 3 troops each, so any further upgrades would have no effect on their war strength - are our extra troops counting against us? Ie is the system still counting extra troops too much and not focussing enough on the first 2 or 3?

    Overall it left us with about 20 possible attacks on 13 bases; whereas they had something like 30 viable attacks on our top 10 bases. We were attacking similar targets (9.5s our side, 9.11s their side), but we were using TH10 troops, they had TH11, and we required a much higher success rate. It wasn't impossible to win the war: they only killed 1 of our 4 inferno bases despite multiple big TH11 attacks; but we failed on some of their lower bases - especially the 9.11s with 4 xbows, not least due to time. They could just spam the score they got; to match we needed a lot of successes on attacks that were certainly possible, but by no means automatic.
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    Good posts Onyx. Did you see mine above? It's not really a horrible match for us, but experiencing the same thing with opposing clan have more wardens and higher offense. We are a bit beefier on defense. As you can see 3 of them have 3 th11 troops only (Healers/Hounds/Loons). I am in the same boat as my labs on both my 10's are maxed (no selective upgrades).

    I fail to see why there is such a discrepancy in offense numbers. Especially since our war the other clan has 5 additional max/almost max wardens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperStorm103 View Post
    Good posts Onyx. Did you see mine above? It's not really a horrible match for us, but experiencing the same thing with opposing clan have more wardens and higher offense. We are a bit beefier on defense. As you can see 3 of them have 3 th11 troops only (Healers/Hounds/Loons). I am in the same boat as my labs on both my 10's are maxed (no selective upgrades).

    I fail to see why there is such a discrepancy in offense numbers. Especially since our war the other clan has 5 additional max/almost max wardens.
    It's what we've been seeing every war since update #1. Literally every single war the enemy has had a few extra TH11 attacks thrown in for free. I think it got better with the second update. But that's better, not fixed. Before it was completely crazy: at one point 3 wardens 45 levels to us against 15 totalling 240+ for them (and many of them full 45/45/20s). It's not a completely new thing - the low weighting of the warden was notorious enough that there's been comments about the "free warden effect" and such for months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnyxDS View Post
    #

    Our impressions:

    The big problem is again on offence. We had 2 big TH11 attacks, plus a new one that's effectively TH10 still. So 2 bases with TH11 troops and wardens; and 8 more with at least 1 TH10 max troop, totalling 10. Whereas they had 9 bases with 1 or more max TH11 troops, all with GW 5+; and a total of 16 bases with some TH10-max troops.

    The total number of TH10 max troops listed in my table isn't very much higher for them. But they have upgraded 2, 3 or 4 troops on numerous bases, which they could then spam. Whereas all our TH10s were upgrading all troops, so apart from the bottom few had fairly complete sets. The enemy are only spamming 2 or 3 troops each, so any further upgrades would have no effect on their war strength - are our extra troops counting against us? Ie is the system still counting extra troops too much and not focussing enough on the first 2 or 3?

    Overall it left us with about 20 possible attacks on 13 bases; whereas they had something like 30 viable attacks on our top 10 bases. We were attacking similar targets (9.5s our side, 9.11s their side), but we were using TH10 troops, they had TH11, and we required a much higher success rate. It wasn't impossible to win the war: they only killed 1 of our 4 inferno bases despite multiple big TH11 attacks; but we failed on some of their lower bases - especially the 9.11s with 4 xbows, not least due to time. They could just spam the score they got; to match we needed a lot of successes on attacks that were certainly possible, but by no means automatic.
    A great post and your impressions about offense are exactly what we’re seeing. It all comes down to offensive troops; an effective matchmaking system really must take this into account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperStorm103 View Post
    Good posts Onyx. Did you see mine above? It's not really a horrible match for us, but experiencing the same thing with opposing clan have more wardens and higher offense. We are a bit beefier on defense. As you can see 3 of them have 3 th11 troops only (Healers/Hounds/Loons). I am in the same boat as my labs on both my 10's are maxed (no selective upgrades).

    I fail to see why there is such a discrepancy in offense numbers. Especially since our war the other clan has 5 additional max/almost max wardens.
    YES! We’re in the same boat...again. We’re in a 20x20 and their 16 is a .1 TH11 with maxed offense and heroes. We have one 11 to their five. Like virtually every war we’re in, this will come down to a battle of who gets the most off of the 1. I’m our 11– fairly new 11, high heroes because we’re maxers, TH10 defenses except for 2 ads and five troop/spell ugs. Their 1 is a nearly maxed 11 (only an L2 EA). I’m pretty confident about my base and I’m pretty confident about attacking him. Only problem is that they’ll have at least 3 11s hit me and scout before they unleash the Big Dog (their 16). It ALL comes down to offense and the best predictor of that is TH level...nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomville View Post
    Another spin here and a worse mismatch than the last, again in our favour. Details to follow. It’s our 9 th11 and 1 th10 vs 7 th11 and 3 th9, all maxer style bases, all their th11 max except some hero levels and some bad walls. Their th9s are probably minis, near max defences but mostly single digit heros.

    It is sad to think of the poor war experience this clan and our last match had. My only comfort is that looking at us they will know that it’s not happened because we set out to get any unfair advantage over them, but rather from a matchmaker that’s not yet avoiding th11 mismatching.
    As promised, full match details:

    TH Q K W EA IT XB CN M WT AT AD T BT AS WALLS
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    11 45 45 20 2 2x5 4x5 7x15 4x10 5x10 8x15 4x9 4x9 2x5 2x6 75x12 225x11
    11 45 45 20 2 2x5 4x5 7x15 4x10 5x10 8x15 4x9 4x9 2x5 2x6 75x12 225x11
    11 45 45 20 2 2x5 4x5 7x15 4x10 5x10 8x15 4x9 4x9 2x5 2x6 75x12 225x11
    11 45 45 20 2 2x5 4x5 7x15 4x10 5x10 8x15 4x9 4x9 2x5 2x6 75x12 225x11
    11 45 45 20 2 2x5 4x5 7x15 4x10 5x10 8x15 4x9 4x9 2x5 2x6 282x11 18x10
    11 45 45 20 2 2x5 4x5 7x15 4x10 5x10 8x15 4x9 4x9 2x5 2x6 1x12 21x11 268x10 10x9
    11 45 45 20 2 2x5 4x5 6x13 1x11 4x10 5x10 8x15 4x9 4x9 2x5 2x6 295x11 5x10
    11 45 40 20 1 2x4 3x4 1x2 6x13 4x7 4x9 1x7 8x13 4x8 4x8 2x2 2x6 9x12 291x11
    11 45 40 20 1 2x4 3x4 1x2 6x13 4x7 4x9 1x7 8x13 4x8 4x8 2x2 2x6 7x12 293x11
    10 25 23 X X 2x3 3x4 6x13 4x8 4x9 1x7 7x13 4x8 4x8 2x4 2x6 85x10 190x9
    THEM
    11 45 45 20 2 2x5 4x5 7x15 4x10 5x10 8x15 4x9 4x9 2x5 2x6 75x12 225x11
    11 45 45 20 2 2x5 4x5 7x15 4x10 5x10 8x15 4x9 4x9 2x5 2x6 75x12 225x11
    11 45 45 20 2 2x5 4x5 7x15 4x10 5x10 8x15 4x9 4x9 2x5 2x6 75x12 225x11
    11 45 45 20 2 2x5 4x5 7x15 4x10 5x10 8x15 4x9 4x9 2x5 2x6 220x11 80x10
    11 44 45 20 2 2x5 4x5 7x15 4x10 5x10 8x15 4x9 4x9 2x5 2x6 90x11 110x10
    11 41 35 20 2 2x5 4x5 5x15 2x13 4x10 5x10 3x15 4x14 1x13 4x9 4x9 2x5 2x6 250x10 50x9
    11 41 40 20 2 2x5 4x5 7x13 4x10 5x10 6x14 2x13 4x9 4x9 2x4 2x6 30x10 240x9 2x5 28x4
    9 12 14 X X X 2x3 5x11 4x7 4x7 3x11 3x10 1x7 3x6 4x7 1x3 2x5 40 x 10 210x9
    9 13 11 X X X 2x3 5x10 1x7 3x6 4x6 6x10 3x6 1x2 4x6 1x2 1x4 1x1 50x9 200x8
    9 7 5 X X X 2x2 5x11 4x7 1x7 3x6 4x10 2x9 2x7 2x6 4x6 1x1 1x1 (1 missing) 40x9 60x8 150x7

    Result to follow, war is not over yet. (Well no more over than it was on prep day, anyhow.)

    Edit: unsurprising result is we won 23-20, they gave up near the end when they realised that it could not be won with 2 th11 attacks left and left our smallest th11 only 1 starred.
    Last edited by Tomville; October 10th, 2017 at 09:50 PM. Reason: Added result
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