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    Quote Originally Posted by cnaf View Post
    Your post made me think of this (safe for work). Timely, comes to mind after we match:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS3612EIcF4

    Yes, the boot is on the other foot here but I feel no better for that. Our war is not done yet but at 23-14, with our strongest attackers being the 6 max th11 attacks left for us, while 5 attacks remain for the enemy... so unless they get a sudden flash of 3 starring th11 brilliance... as smallest 11 I got sent to beat up one of the 3 enemy baby 9s while our 10 took the other 2, and the poor guy/girl got 22% on me in return then left their clan. I wish I could tell them I regret this match as much as they do.
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    We are on the 2nd war with legit th 9-11 under the new matchmaking, and we get a pretty fair match.
    We got 3 extra th11 but our 2 bottom th11 are with mid th10 defense and low level warden (4 and 6 as they are just newly upgraded to th11, no th11 troops yet). Our opponent on the other side has defense advantage from their extra 5 th10 with max inferno against our th9,5 and 9s at the bottom.
    No engineered base on any of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chang405 View Post
    On to war number 6 (20v20) that took 45 mins for a mismatch in our favor.
    Our roster is
    Th10.5 with max point defenses (40/40/20), Th10.5 newly upgraded from near max Th10 (40/40/6), mid Th10 (35/37), Th9.5 with only 1 Xbow (27/27), 3 normal Th9, 2 manicured Th9, 1 new Th9, 7 Th8, 3 Th7
    They have
    Max Th10 (26/26), Max Th10 (22/21), Max Th10 (20/19), Th9.5 (11/14), 5 normal Th9, 1 Th8.5, 3 Th8, 1 Th8.11 (5/5/5) 2 Th7, 2 Th6, 1 defenseless Th8, 1 low defense "Th9" at number 20

    A case of roster engineering gone wrong for our opponents?
    Unsurprisingly we won 58-54, they didn't even try to attack our number 1.

    On to war number 7 (20v20) that took 35 mins for another mismatch in our favor.
    Our roster is unchanged from war 6 (
    Th10.5 with max point defenses (40/40/20), Th10.5 newly upgraded from near max Th10 (40/40/7), mid Th10 (35/37), Th9.5 with only 1 Xbow (27/27), 3 normal Th9, 2 manicured Th9, 1 new Th9, 7 Th8, 3 Th7
    They have
    Max Th10 (22/24), Max Th10 (20/22), Max Th9.5 (29/11), Th9.11 (10/8/6), 3 normal Th9, 5 Th8.5, 4 Th8, 3 Th7, 1 minimal defense Th6

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    we're still on a roll. fought through our last war at a 4 th11 and 3 eagle disadvantage. up to a 20 streak the train doesn't stop

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFrostyBlaze View Post
    we're still on a roll. fought through our last war at a 4 th11 and 3 eagle disadvantage. up to a 20 streak the train doesn't stop
    Wow, congrats Frosty. Sounds like you are smashing it, especially considering your TH11/Eagle disparity above.

    Our midweek war was a fair one. As usual we had a TH11 disadvantage (12 from 14 now!), but we did have an extra TH10 which really helped. One of our top TH11's has now built his Eagle, and we are focusing on balancing our bases up top now, not just TH10s downwards. Relieved to see some green!

    We are coming after your win streak Frosty!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chang405 View Post
    On to war number 7 (20v20) that took 35 mins for another mismatch in our favor.
    Our roster is unchanged from war 6
    Th10.5 with max point defenses (40/40/20), Th10.5 newly upgraded from near max Th10 (40/40/7), mid Th10 (35/37), Th9.5 with only 1 Xbow (27/27), 3 normal Th9, 2 manicured Th9, 1 new Th9, 7 Th8, 3 Th7
    They have
    Max Th10 (22/24), Max Th10 (20/22), Max Th9.5 (29/11), Th9.11 (10/8/6), 3 normal Th9, 5 Th8.5, 4 Th8, 3 Th7, 1 minimal defense Th6
    We won 58-54 which put us at a 8 game winning streak. 45 mins later we were handed a slight disadvantage in war number 8.

    Our roster is unchanged from war 6
    Th10.5 with max point defenses (40/40/20), Th10.5 newly upgraded from near max Th10 (40/40/7), mid Th10 (35/37), Th9.5 with only 1 Xbow (27/27), 3 normal Th9, 2 manicured Th9, 1 new Th9, 7 Th8, 3 Th7
    They have
    Th10.5 with max everything, only missing an Eagle (45/45/20), Th9.11 (18/25/20), Th9.5 (32/38), 7 normal Th9, 3 Th8.5, 2 Th8, 2 engineered Th9/10 in between the Th8s, 1 Th6, 2 defenseless Th3

    We will most likely only get 59 stars while they have the potential of perfecting us. Our number one spent a few hours redoing his base to be anti laloon 3 star. Its going to be an interesting war for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skrags View Post
    The whole 'dropping the Eagle' trend, seems to be gathering pace these days. While I wouldn't deem my clan engineered, none of our TH11's who dip in and out of wars have built Eagles, as historically they have just been thought of as ridiculously overweighted for their usefulness.

    In our last war (10 v10) the top 3 slots were :-

    US : TH11 45/45/20 No Eagle, 70% maxed other defences. TH11 45/45/20 No Eagle, 60% maxed other defences. TH10 40/40 99% maxed.


    THEM : TH11 45/45/20 Fully maxed with Eagle. TH11 45/45/20 Fully maxed with Eagle. TH11 45/45/20 TH10+defences


    In summary, we were outgunned offensively and defensively. They were very good tbh - we got battered!
    its an interesting one, today i had the conversation in our clan about me or another 10.75 dropping the eagle. Currently we have one Max th11 with eagle up top in 20v20 wars and 90% of the time opponents have 3 or more. I think its the most common clan comp at pur clan weight so for us it may make sense to have at least 2 bases with eagle. Never in my life did i think i would consider this but it on a shallow levels looks like opponents getting some sort of free eagle effect recently.

    knowing how overweight the eagle is though i think Ill hold off.
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    Accounts - 11 heavy with eagle!!! What have i done, D rushed 11; 10.5, 2 x 10.25; premmi 10.5; 2 x noob rushed 11; super 9.05 (9.11), badly rushed th11, solid super 8.25 (8.10).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vikingchief View Post
    its an interesting one, today i had the conversation in our clan about me or another 10.75 dropping the eagle. Currently we have one Max th11 with eagle up top in 20v20 wars and 90% of the time opponents have 3 or more. I think its the most common clan comp at pur clan weight so for us it may make sense to have at least 2 bases with eagle. Never in my life did i think i would consider this but it on a shallow levels looks like opponents getting some sort of free eagle effect recently.

    knowing how overweight the eagle is though i think Ill hold off.
    ive noticed the more guys we have in war with eagles, the more opponent gets (our roster rotates all the time)
    nothing is free

    i think if opponents are getting more eagles, its for a combination of other reasons...
    dropping more of your own doesn't solve anything.

    but feel free to try it!
    not like its irreversible or anything!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jobob145 View Post
    ive noticed the more guys we have in war with eagles, the more opponent gets (our roster rotates all the time)
    nothing is free

    i think if opponents are getting more eagles, its for a combination of other reasons...
    dropping more of your own doesn't solve anything.

    but feel free to try it!
    not like its irreversible or anything!
    we run wars with 3-5 eagles and are equal or +/-1 every war in them. if we are down an eagle we normally get an extra th10 or two or vise versa so seems fair to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFrostyBlaze View Post
    we run wars with 3-5 eagles and are equal or +/-1 every war in them. if we are down an eagle we normally get an extra th10 or two or vise versa so seems fair to me.
    sounds like you dont have the problem others are then..
    you've found a good line up / build strategy.


    for those with a problem..
    if your weight is "a" and your opponents is "b"
    and the algo considers them approximately equal

    a + (weight of 2 more eagles) is still going to approximately equal b + (weight of 2 more eagles)

    that didnt solve anything.
    i think you need to attempt to solve why your "a" is consistently drawing a "b". and that could be lots of reasons.

    atypical lineup/th mix/ offense-defense ratios/ etc.. could be too hard to find a match and the acceptable range keeps going not in your favor
    "dead" weight (things upgraded not useful or overweighted in war)

    i cant picture how flat out dropping 2 eagles would solve the underlying problem of how the mm currently sees a clan like "a"

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