War MM & Cannon Cart changes - the FEEDBACK thread!

[Superhk]

our latest spin, 15v15 war

Our lineup
2 th11
3 th10
10 th9

All mid to max weight wise, not a single .5

Their lineup
7 th11 (1 EA)
7 th10 (5 with ITs)
1 th9

Most of the th11s are engineered, they all got wardens and some max troops (alot of lalo). They have high level def, but most lacks IT and Eagle, but will still be hard to 3 star for a th9 (and we have solid th9 attackers). Even their bottom base got th10 level point def and WT.

Waited aprox an hour to match.

Random wars are getting more and more absurd.


HK

[Goonerwinone]

This is my worry. From what I have seen so far, it seems slightly engineered clans are getting horrible matches. Maxer clans are hit and miss getting at least 50% terrible matches. Heavily engineered clans are getting bad matches in their favor. It doesn't seem to be an improvement to me, although it is early. I just hope players keep warring long enough to actually have time to evaluate and improve it. I think for many, this will be their last straw.



What do you disagree with? I think I agree with all of what you said here other than perhaps how we describe maxers that relented and engineered as they moved forward in war due to the matchmaker telling them for years that this was the best way to upgrade. I have no ill will toward them, even though I want to end the advantage of engineering. Other than the symantics of the label, it appears we agree on what the end result should be.

I took you quoting the person about rushers out of context.
At a glance I thought you was defending them and saying they needed catering for. Which I now know you wasn't

What I do disagree with also is that engineers need to be catered for to, as not to ruffle their feather's, no bring in as said a minimum hall weight and like a lot did to so call adapt, get them now to adapt and bring their bases back in line with balance. Wouldn't even need credit cards to do this actually, just a bit of time

Don't get me wrong the sole blame lays at supercells feet in knowing that many (not all) engineers have spent a heck of a lot of money to get their bases to perfection to what the MM allows.
I might feel more passionate about war if I knew that a random spin would bring in a balanced war that was down to the skill factor on the field and I'm sure those that HAD to so call "follow suit/adapt/can't beat em join em" would also..

But yes rereading your post and we do agree on near enough everything and the main misunderstanding was me reading the quote you included in your post as part of your actual post.

[PolishBloke]

After update (25vs25):

Us:
17 TH11 (no 0,5)
8 TH10 (1 new so 0,5?)

Them:
22 TH11 (1 no EA)
1 TH10
2 TH9

Sorry for my English:

Whodo we call maxers? Players who spend last 2-4 years working hard on upgraiding there offence and defence, and for last 2 years paying price for the fact that SuperCell was trying make some money for any engendered player? I not complaining it's SuperCell game, but I spend a lot of cash on this game, and It would be nice to treated fair by SuperCell

I think the only fair way to finish all that fight how mm should be working is have a extra clan setting:

War search:
- by TH level
- by weight level

If you are a maxer and you want a fair wars, you choose war search by TH level - so simple

And than SuperCell can work on mm only for clans who chose weight level

Thanks

[PapaTroll]

So far I see little change in the matchup. Our record was close to .500 so it can't be that bad to start with.
Wonder how many complaining of unfair matchups have records above .500?
Wonder why so few complain of getting matched against an easier clan?
Maybe you can tune the algorithm so that all clans win more than 75% of the time.

[GedGed]

Matchmaking is worst I've ever seen:

https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...1#post10858713

[EnergyMan]

Are the balance changes for cannon cart out because it doesn't look like they are

[maxmeister23]

This war matchmaking has not worked out for us. First war we had 2 th11's they had 6. Second war we had 1 th11 they had 4. The difference each war? They had multiple th4's at the bottom where we had th7's and 8's. Our third war is the only one with a decent match up where actually we have 2 th11's where they have one however one of our 11's isn't maxed 10 and their 2 is a maxed 10

[gaspir324]

At least put 100k penalty on defenceless bases or comparable bases with less than [insert % here] defences down. Bows not down on a fresh-ish TH9, no infernos on TH10s till their troops are up to speed and late EA on TH11 are all OK in my book and should not get penalized, at least in major way.

[NGS8Blood]

First matchup that I've seen is not great...we got 6/13/21 breakdown (bottom 4 11s not maxed, but not engi)...no .5s or engis....they got 5 maxed 11s, 12 TH10s, a 9.11 at 35/45/15 with maxed drags, valks, lalo, bowlers, witches, healers...21 TH9s...then a (somewhere 5-8).11 11/11/7, max miners, heal, rage, bowitch, jump and loons...fairly easy I'd say. We stand a chance, but we did match engis and we aren't engi at all. And yes, if you take that just as a normal breakdown it is 6/13/21 vs 7/12/21 which is fairly even, so I'm not complaining (tho I believe they may be mixed too, which is unfortunate, not completely sure on that one other than they got close to a defo mod clan and say mixed in description (tho mixed can b confused so idk other than them getting close to mod clan)). Just thought I'd give evidence of some parts of engi still matching non-engi, even if it isn't as uneven as before (tho in this clan we rarely faced any engis before)

[enkaztheinfaz]

There is no improvement. We want a major update to the clan wars.
Nothing annoying enough to wait for 24 hours.
Clan wars need to be more online.

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thank you