The TH11s with max bowlers and lavas wardens are messing everything up
The TH11s with max bowlers and lavas wardens are messing everything up
Umm, you've been out-engineered?! This is the game you are playing, you can't really complain just because you've lost!Originally Posted by ahkautan
It is fair because you both started trying to game the same MM, they did it better than you - you lose!
Now if you weren't trying to game the MM and actually just have the war decided on your attacking skills then you might have something to complain about.
If you want a fair match, drop the .5s and new town hall people from your roster. You might want to go back and read many of the previous posts in this thread.
Kind of hard to complain when you're engineering your roster as well with the th3's😏.
Last edited by JSpur5; September 8th, 2017 at 03:14 PM.
Wow, that is a serious mismatch. It is basically in-game "modding" or "sand-boxing."
So many surplus enemy 11 attacks. Wow.
I always find it strange when people with engineered bases complain of a mismatch. The whole idea of engineering is to fool the MM system into giving you an insurmountable advantage in war. It stands to reason that the war itself doesn't matter, it's all in the lineup you present. When you are matched your war is done, you either have that insurmountable advantage you were looking for or you don't. Game over either way!
You complain about not getting a fair match but that wasn't what you wanted!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, quit it already!
Last edited by NightsWatchMB; September 8th, 2017 at 03:23 PM.
Someone needs to be fired at SuperCell over this Matchmaking change disaster. I've been playing this game since a week after launch in 2012 and next to the TH11 roll out disaster this is the worst thing EVER to happen to this game. I seriously question whether the developers play out in the "real" Clash of Clans world or stay inside some kind of closed developer server.
Prior to the "update" my clan would see clans attempting to engineer but failing in some small way giving us a chance at winning. After the update ALL we have matched up against is hard core CLANS who are engineered. This is the problem. It's not that one individual base in engineered - IT IS THAT THE ENTIRE CLAN IS SET UP TO BE ENGINEERED.
Has SC figured out yet that a vast majority of fair play clans have stopped warring - out of total frustration - and this is why everyone is now matching up with engineers?
I'm not sure SuperCell understands these simple principles and at this point I have doubt that they actually care. The creative use of language to make engineering/exploit clans into "play to they way to want to" shows utter contempt for those who don't exploit the system.
The abject mendacity of a company who once removed Town Hall sniping because it was, "Not how the game was meant to be played," yet now say that those who exploit the system as "allow(ing) players to retain their creativity in their base design and play style." is asinine.
More radio silence from SuperCell will only cause more players to quit. Face it SC, the only clans now warring are engineers and their victims.
Last edited by Stinkpickle63; September 8th, 2017 at 03:34 PM.
Cannon cart: still useless.
Matchmaking is worse i think. Before the updated had a lot of close wars. +- 1 or 2 stars, and a lot of percentage tie breakers. Since, a 12 star win only one percentage. We are not seeing much of the mini maxes, but more of the th3's at the bottom and max 11's at the top. And the most recent one are modders. The top folks left the clan and then came back and performed perfect 3 star attacks.
SC hasn't fixed anything, but, I'm afraid, only made things worse.
Last edited by Wells549; September 8th, 2017 at 03:40 PM.
Ahh Lonestar, I see you have the ring and your Schwartz is as big as mine
You really have 2 leagues of play in clash. You have your pros and semi-pros in one class. These guys are all maxed th11's. And engineering means nothing to them. In fact it is useless. Match making is not even an issue with these folks. Their gripe was with the modding and sand boxing. That problem is suppose to be fixed.
Then u have the amateur class. This is a hodge podge of anything. It is the bulk of the game and it is vulnerable to both match making and engineering.
The only true and real way to avoid the match making and engineering woes are to become a maxed 11 and join a pro/semi pro clan.
Meanwhile, if u are not willing to to become pro and maxed 11, engineering is a valueable and strategic component of the game. Mind you, i am not talking skill or ability, but rather tactics.
Remember guys, engineering has been around for at least 2-3 years, and these people have spent alot of time and money on their accounts too. For clash to "punish" and "alienate" engineers to make this over hyped and inappropriate used term "fair-play" possible is perhaps not in supercells best interest.
My arguement and stance is that as long as supercell is making profits and people are playing the game, match making in their eyes is just fine.
Supercell has this impossible job of making "everyone" happy.
My advice for those who are genuinely upset and irritated, stop playing the game. Jake did, so can you. Alot of awesome video games out there.....
As for me, I still enjoy the game. I think supercell does a good job. There are things I dont like, but overall, this has been my favorite video game to date despite its inherent flaws.
And like every video game to date, i eventually stop playing it, for whatever reason.....like pong, space invaders, donkey kong, etc.....u get the picture. Every video game has a shelf life with me. And then you move on.....
Last edited by BZ1; September 8th, 2017 at 03:49 PM. Reason: Forgot conclusion
I have not had enough wars in yet between the two clans I participate in to be certain, but it appears that under certain exact conditions you have a very high probability to draw a fair match. Once you get outside those certain conditions you appear to be categorized as outside the norm, those have a very high probability of an uneven (on paper) match.
Reading all the posts above seem to support this. I suspect it's the new TH9, 10 & 11s seem to not fit those conditions, not the heavy 10s. Those of you complaining about heavy 10s matching 11s, are any of your TH10s or TH9s new? (any missing defenses)
Ok, after 5 wars since the new MM system, I really miss the old one.
We are getting matched against engineers (TH11s with TH8 defenses) like never before. We have zero engineered bases, just 3 early TH10s with no infernos.
These unfair matches was a rare occasion, but now, it's normal.
BTW we have zero TH11 in our team, so these engineered TH11s 3 staring our TH10s is a crazy disadvantage.
Can we revert the changes please ?
Last edited by PraisedOne; September 8th, 2017 at 04:56 PM.
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