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    Quote Originally Posted by JSpur5 View Post
    Morning. We ran our 3rd war search using nothing but bases with all defenses for their current and previous levels. I repeat, we have all defenses on our bases. No one is a .5 or even a new town hall who hasn't dropped new defenses. I wont list hero levels as we have all decided they don't carry the weight they should anyway.

    US: 4 TH11s, 4 th9s, 4 th8s, 2 th7s and a th6.

    Them: 3 th11s, 5 th10s, 7 th8s. A couple of their 8s and 10s are rushed

    In my opinion, this war is a FAIR one. Granted our 11s may only get one attack on their 11s and will have to clean up on some 10s, but all in all it will be a competitive, FUN, and fair war.

    This is our 3rd war using this and lineup and each one has been competitive and fair with both clans having a shot at winning.
    We did the exact same thing and got an even closer match than you US: 2 TH10s, 8 TH9s, 5 TH8s THEM: 3 TH10s (one very rushed), 7 TH9s, 5 TH8s. Fairest match we've had in a long time.
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    Wow, I wish our experience was Nice and Warm and Fuzzy.

    Twice I have gone to do a video about how mismatched we are. And now, looks like a third time might be the charm.

    Last one was... 3/5/22 for us and 8/6//16 for them. Only reason we won was they had TH10s who didn't attack and clear our 9s.

    This current war just spun we have 4/4/22 and they have 8/6/13/2Th8s/1TH7.

    For the sake of our sanity, please, how hard is it to do one final TH v TH check. I'd wait 4 hours after hitting search if we could just match like for like. Because this match is utter garbage.

    Do they all have max troops and the like? Nope. But they don't need to max All troops though. Only the ones that mean anything to them. In the one we won, they had 2 TH11s in position 30 and 29 and another in position 26. Number 29 had max heroes, air, miners, bowlers, valks, healers and the usual spells.

    It doesn't matter they might have a weaker base, they have a clear Attacking Advantage that we cannot compensate for with a Defensive Advantage. The war went exactly as predicted. Their top 9s hit our bottoms, their 10s cleaned the rest and their 11s went to town on our 10s.

    This current match is going to be a walkover for them, unfortunately for us. And will likely go the same way. Their 9s will dip and their 28 attacks of 10s&11s will overwhelm our 16 10&11 attacks. We will get a red line not due to lack of skill but faulty matching who gives us a war we cannot win.

    SC, I know you don't want to stop their Bullying fun, but how about our non bullying fun? Don't we get to have fun playing Our war too? I am pretty sure this is not how the War was intended to be played... hmmm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightsWatchMB View Post
    We did the exact same thing and got an even closer match than you US: 2 TH10s, 8 TH9s, 5 TH8s THEM: 3 TH10s (one very rushed), 7 TH9s, 5 TH8s. Fairest match we've had in a long time.
    MM this time a little better, hoping more of the same.

    US: 0/7/9/3/1
    Them: 1/6/9/2/2

    Their (fresh) TH11 did place the EA, AT & WT right after we matched (no way MM could pick up that one).

    All of our bases have all new defenses built prior to search EXCEPT two of the TH9s that have not built the xbows yet- those two bases do have all other defenses placed and "TH8 built defenses" were max for TH8 (other than maybe some walls) and neither have the queen yet. (so semi normal "maxer" progression)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterOz View Post
    Wow, I wish our experience was Nice and Warm and Fuzzy.

    Twice I have gone to do a video about how mismatched we are. And now, looks like a third time might be the charm.

    Last one was... 3/5/22 for us and 8/6//16 for them. Only reason we won was they had TH10s who didn't attack and clear our 9s.

    This current war just spun we have 4/4/22 and they have 8/6/13/2Th8s/1TH7.

    For the sake of our sanity, please, how hard is it to do one final TH v TH check. I'd wait 4 hours after hitting search if we could just match like for like. Because this match is utter garbage.

    Do they all have max troops and the like? Nope. But they don't need to max All troops though. Only the ones that mean anything to them. In the one we won, they had 2 TH11s in position 30 and 29 and another in position 26. Number 29 had max heroes, air, miners, bowlers, valks, healers and the usual spells.

    It doesn't matter they might have a weaker base, they have a clear Attacking Advantage that we cannot compensate for with a Defensive Advantage. The war went exactly as predicted. Their top 9s hit our bottoms, their 10s cleaned the rest and their 11s went to town on our 10s.

    This current match is going to be a walkover for them, unfortunately for us. And will likely go the same way. Their 9s will dip and their 28 attacks of 10s&11s will overwhelm our 16 10&11 attacks. We will get a red line not due to lack of skill but faulty matching who gives us a war we cannot win.

    SC, I know you don't want to stop their Bullying fun, but how about our non bullying fun? Don't we get to have fun playing Our war too? I am pretty sure this is not how the War was intended to be played... hmmm?
    Mr. Oz, our first three war searches under the new system were nowhere near what I would deem as fun or winnable. The war was decided as soon as the search ended and nowhere near to our advantage. We went 1-2 in those three wars. Like you, our only win during that span was more of a gift by the opponent not attacking than by us actually winning.

    By reading this forum and using some deductive reasoning, I decided to change the war lineup and not use the .5s or the minimax or anything that could be deemed as engineered. The results of the last three searches came back dramatically different and much more fair and enjoyable than anything we have had in the previous 10 wars.

    These last three searches have at least reenergized my clan and people are now dropping their missing defenses and getting rid of anything resembling what can be mistaken as engineered. I'm not saying I found how the system is working but I have found a way that it works for us.
    Last edited by JSpur5; September 5th, 2017 at 04:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterOz View Post
    Last one was... 3/5/22 for us and 8/6//16 for them.

    This current war just spun we have 4/4/22 and they have 8/6/13/2Th8s/1TH7.
    I'm half afraid the red numbers are the problem in your case with the current MM. I haven't seen enough matches yet to be sure, but I think too many bases on one end or the other may not be helpful in getting a fair match.

    Maybe try 4/4/12 or 4/4/7 next time? Anyone else having issues with compositions like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slayer339 View Post
    I'm half afraid the red numbers are the problem in your case with the current MM. I haven't seen enough matches yet to be sure, but I think too many bases on one end or the other may not be helpful in getting a fair match.

    Maybe try 4/4/12 or 4/4/7 next time? Anyone else having issues with compositions like this?
    Were doing 10 man 2/2/6 and over the last 5 wars have been seeing terrible matches. That being said this most recent is not the worst.

    Same 10 bases each time for us.
    2 11, 1 max, 1 All defenses down 3 months into 11 LVL15 warden LVL1 Eagle
    2 10's both with inferno 1 LVL3 1 LVL2 infernos.
    6 9's various stages all with full defenses some Th8 level some full TH9. All With 10/10 - 20/20 hero levels

    War 1 4-11, 6 10's
    War 2 3-11, 3-10
    War 3 4-11 2-10
    War 4 3-11,2-10

    Its not the Defenses that matter like the offenses do. next war I need to change up the lineup so we can get more in again but this is a failed experiment for sure.

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    I came on to see when this update was going to be ready,As furious at our last 3 matches
    But i see it is live......Sorry but this is a superfail if it is
    last war was a complete joke...not even fairly close
    SC sort your game out

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    3rd matchup after the update and its getting worse.
    War 20 vs 20.
    Our clan: 3 th11, 2 th10, 11 th9, 4 th8
    Other clan: 10 th11, 4 th10, 2 th9, 2 th8, 2 th6 (defenceless)
    That's boring. Really boring.

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    I came to this thread looking for some info on whether the cannon cart is working better. But all anyone seems to want to talk about is matchmaking... How come no one cares about the cannon cart?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatchlhoff View Post
    I came to this thread looking for some info on whether the cannon cart is working better. But all anyone seems to want to talk about is matchmaking... How come no one cares about the cannon cart?
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitenthegreat View Post
    The cannon cart is way better now. Thanks
    Found it for you .Hatch!

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