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    Quote Originally Posted by strandwolfza View Post
    has it dawned on them that by doing so, they only made the engineering problem worse? that by that, they only became part of the problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by strandwolfza View Post
    has it dawned on them that by doing so, they only made the engineering problem worse? that by that, they only became part of the problem?

    me and my clan kept our integrity until the end and we paid the price for that
    You made your decision others made their decision. For most of us who love this game it is not a real option to just quit wars.

    In the end whose fault is it? Those who created engineering? Those who reacted to it by trying to even the playing field? I would say neither, really its the fault of the MM. Regardless of engineers losing their advantage or being "out-engineered" that just means someone is doing it better and further encourages the issue.

    A solution needs to come through the MM or the problem will persist. This is why people in this thread are complaining, because a fix to this was supposed to come but it seems to only have made it worse. The fault lies with the war MM and with SC for not correcting this issue, they have only allowed it to fester.
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    We need to go back to matching by defense. On top of the map that is only thing that matters.Clans with more eagles/infernos has a huge advantage.

    And to counter engineers, instead of trying to get fancy and match by attack power, just bump anyones def weight to a max of previous TH. So any defensless TH11 will weight same as max TH10 at mimuimum. Adjust as necessary (maybe weight it as max TH9 to start with) but this should take care of huge mismatches that are happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boschman93 View Post
    You made your decision others made their decision. For most of us who love this game it is not a real option to just quit wars.

    In the end whose fault is it? Those who created engineering? Those who reacted to it by trying to even the playing field? I would say neither, really its the fault of the MM. Regardless of engineers losing their advantage or being "out-engineered" that just means someone is doing it better and further encourages the issue.

    A solution needs to come through the MM or the problem will persist. This is why people in this thread are complaining, because a fix to this was supposed to come but it seems to only have made it worse. The fault lies with the war MM and with SC for not correcting this issue, they have only allowed it to fester.
    you're right, I only think it's funny how only now that their advantage is gone and their getting mismatches these engineers are coming here to complain

    tell me, before the last maintenance, how much times you complained when you got a mismatch in your favor because of engineering?

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    We never complained about mismatches and engineering, we always tried to adjust. But that last matchup isn't just mismatch, it's completely crazy. I know you think all engineers are bad, but just check that table.
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    My clan did a pretty good job of managing the previous MM to get opponents that were comparable to us. We were always attempting to find an even match. We used .5 as a means to keep bases in the war roster. It worked for us. We normally got fairly even matches. Noticeably weaker opponents were a rarity and we liked that. We don't find it all that fun to crush an opponent who doesn't have much of a chance. Just looking to find that same balance again. Who knows how drastic the adjustments to MM are going to be and how frequent now that more control has been built in.
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    War still lopsided for us, it's all up top with the th11 with eagle/warden. A few more th11 on the opposing side are the only wars we lose. In general my clan attacks better and builds better bases but a mid level th10 is not going to three a mid level th11 and that is what it's all about for us. You can fix engineering matchups but without weighing th11 more accurately it means little.

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    First war we had 9 TH11s vs their 16. Second war we are "only" outnumbered by 2. I would be ok with that if there were times when we actually got to be the outnumbering clan. Maybe 50/50? No, we haven't been the outnumbering clan on TH11s for as long as I can remember. We are always the underdog.

    I am with others. Minimum defense weight per TH. All 11s should be ahead of all TH10s. Max Heroes, Warden, Max Troops and an extra spell...With that offense I can triple any 10 so I should weight higher than any 10. TH11s weighing less than 9s and less than 8s is not right and is the BIGGEST reason for these gross mismatches. Not .5s We dealt with .5s for a long time and we won most and lost some. But this latest wave of defenseless TH11s on the bottom crushing your #1 and #2 is crazy. FIX IT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2222 View Post
    The match he posted shows a huge advantage for engineering th11s. How is that a good thing? I want SC to end this huge engineering advantage. If they can't do it with a complicated system trying to let everyone upgrade any way they want but still have even matches then it is time to drop the hammer and introduce a minimum defensive weight per hall.
    I agree... this is getting to be too much.

    We've had 2 wars since the update. we do not put engineered accounts in war, but we are in various stages of upgrades. seems the bad matches continue to get worse. This war we have 1 th11 enemy has 5

    we run wars with 1 or 2 th11s all the way down to th7s. Usually 20 vs 20. If a clan member is opted in and is not rushed we include them in war.

    Last month we've started being matched with more and more engineers with no big change in our line up that I can tell. Prior to that we were fairly even matched winning 5 to 7 war then getting match with an extreme engineered clans and loose one, but won more then we lost. Now after the update it seems to be even worse. our war log is turning red and I have no clue how to fix it. With every war more and more of our members opt out. As a casual adult clan we have no desire or the time to start new engineered accounts.

    Our clan survived the removal of th sniping, i dont know that we will make it through this. I for one, will no longer buy gems until this, if ever, gets fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy90 View Post
    I agree... this is getting to be too much.

    Last month we've started being matched with more and more engineers with no big change in our line up that I can tell. Prior to that we were fairly even matched winning 5 to 7 war then getting match with an extreme engineered clans and loose one, but won more then we lost. Now after the update it seems to be even worse. our war log is turning red and I have no clue how to fix it. With every war more and more of our members opt out. As a casual adult clan we have no desire or the time to start new engineered accounts.

    Our clan survived the removal of th sniping, i dont know that we will make it through this. I for one, will no longer buy gems until this, if ever, gets fixed.
    Complete agree. This was basically our story as well.

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