War MM & Cannon Cart changes - the FEEDBACK thread!

[durango95]

That would not be very effective. My 1-2 year old garbage defense bases have more successful defenses than my max defense 10.5 main base that I have been playing for 4 years due to the leagues in which those respective bases dwell. Trophy droppers giving you free defenses in silver/gold leads to inflated defense counts and defenses in Titan/legend are few and far between.

No, actual defensive builds; e.g. to war as a TH9 you have to have all the TH9 canons built and they all need to be atleast max TH8 level (level 10).

[Klavious]

if or sample size of one is any indication on new mm, it totally blows and I'll likely retire from Clash if it continues

[durango95]

Why would it be better to require a minimum number of defenses to join war instead of making a minimum weight per hall and letting the player decide whether to join war?

The common complaint I hear is that a minimum TH weight would unfairly penalized clans with rushed bases... I guess my point is don't let the rushers war. People will figure out rushing will knock you out of war and the problem will work itself out.

[Drkhossain]

So, now engineers are using the excuse of "we understand war weight." You can sugarcoat it all you want, you're still engineering.

Sounds like the MM is working as intended - the tide has turned in favour of the non-engineered. Maybe you will know how it feels to waste 47 hours of your life in an unfair war

Ha ha ha.very happy to see.Engineers are crying and running here and there.

[OnyxDS]

Ha ha ha.very happy to see.Engineers are crying and running here and there.

And the only 3 outright maxer clans ive seen report are saying 9v12 th11s, 6v12 th11s, and 5 vs 14. The only people that seem to have benefitted from the change, perhaps, are some fairly heavily engineered clans.

[Drkhossain]

And the only 3 outright maxer clans ive seen report are saying 9v12 th11s, 6v12 th11s, and 5 vs 14. The only people that seem to have benefitted from the change, perhaps, are some fairly heavily engineered clans.

Are you at war now?plz give your clan Id.If you can.

[OnyxDS]

Are you at war now?plz give your clan Id.If you can.

I'm not one of them. They're all in this thread or the one in the wars subforum if you read through them

[Drkhossain]

Anyone can claim anything in forum.please people who are complaining about mm.plz give your clan tag.It will be more helpful to check the real status.

[Goonerwinone]

That is one disadvantage, although it is lessened by the fact that those rushers have the big defenses on their bases already, so they are already getting hit with much of that minimum weight. It is also lessened by the fact that they are already at such a disadvantage anyway. I do agree it is a disadvantage, but it is better than what we have dealt with for years.



You keep saying engineers are unhappy, so you are happy, while ignoring all the maxers that are also unhappy. I suspect most warring clans making use of the forums are engineered in some way, especially when .5s are included, so it is no surprise to have more feedback from clans with some level of engineering than clans that are all out maxers. Not many of those remain. Most either quit war, like your clan, or they adapted and now have some level of engineering. I've seen a few posts from people noting they see an improvement in the matches from both engineers and maxers, but way more saying the matches are still terrible (from maxers too, which you ignore). These reports of good matches are so few and far between that they seem to be just random lucky good matches. It is not working for them either, so I don't understand your happiness.

Additionally, the failure to create even matches for engineers is important to us all. If the only reason SC has been so resistant to a more simple fix, like a minimum defensive weight per hall level, is the desire to create even matches for all types of play styles, then it is very important to point out if that is failing. Because, if it is, then that removes the incentive to have this complicated failing matchmaker and replace it with something more simple and easy to understand, even if that means engineering is totally ruined by it, because they are getting bad matches anyway so what's the difference.

I agree with a lot you post, but this I can't.
Rushers have always been advised not to rush if they want to war (sensible rushing is fine for farming, not great for war, rushing at best "Start over and create a new account")

Yes clans quit waring in droves after march 16 ridiculous MM update, but to say they adapted is rubbish, they gave in and made the problem even worse. That is not adapting
Yes I'm reading maxer's are facing some bad matches , I would love to see their full roster (one bad match is nothing to go on, it's going to happen),
But engineers complaining they are getting out engineered is at best farcical at worse hilarious
My clan stopped waring,small clan of 20 people, been together for 3 years, why did we need to start to manipulate the system to enjoy participating in war. And be another clan adding to the problem

TH minimum weight is really the only way forward.
Sorry but sod the rushers (non sensible) we've all tried to help them be it in clan/global/forum yet they still carry on and as for engineers well sorry they created this mess so deal with it. I've already seen in clan chat known engineers (base and roster ) trying to figure out how they can get around what ever has been implemented and what may come by the way of SC tweaks.

[AndyInGame]

And the only 3 outright maxer clans ive seen report are saying 9v12 th11s, 6v12 th11s, and 5 vs 14. The only people that seem to have benefitted from the change, perhaps, are some fairly heavily engineered clans.

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