I'm a maxer and I can't help but laugh at all the engineers in this thread bashing the op just because he's the king of engineering
hey man I don't know what you're doing but if it is as powerful as some in this thread say it is then please never share it with anyone. now that you'll only be matched against other engineers please wreck them all and keep being the absolute winnerOriginally Posted by CheckMate99
No, we are bashing him because he is claiming they are getting fair matches and that they aren't engineering but winning with pure skill.I'm a maxer and I can't help but laugh at all the engineers in this thread bashing the op just because he's the king of engineering
They are not going to be matched against other engineers only. They keep claiming they are getting 'fair' matches for years now, while it is not the case. If he OP says they got a fair match, that means they got a match that is no contest again - just as before when he claimed he got fair matchups.hey man I don't know what you're doing but if it is as powerful as some in this thread say it is then please never share it with anyone. now that you'll only be matched against other engineers please wreck them all and keep being the absolute winner
0 infernos = 2 infernos, therefore 0 = 2
2 wardens = 5 wardens, therefore 2 = 5
Conclusion: 0 = 5
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apparently, he has the knowledge on how to win every war. but he's only one clan. there's a lot of other clans in this game. but because he never shared his knowledge with anyone, the vast majority of clans never had to face people like him and, and because he'll never share what he knows, they never will
but if it was you who had this knowledge, dorsan, you would share it with anyone you could. "this would make the devs fix the problem", you'd say, but of course you don't care about the countless people who'd have their games ruined because of what you did, until and if supercell fix the problem
I stand by what I said, I wish the op keep doing what he's doing and even if he's matched against non-engineered clans, the other 99,9% of players wouldn't even notice that there is a problem, as long as the op never shares what he knows
the problem is all of you guys always give what they need.... attention
lol
come on.... it's an old story....
I don't the history you guys have with each to be alright with gang banging on the Martian....
But wow, the level of comprehension that I'm reading here is astonishing. First off, calling .5's and the similar, engineered, is YOUR definition of engineering. I repeat YOUR definition. And from that you get all this venom to anyone that falls under YOUR definition of engineering. Has SC ever told you this? Did they call out .5's as engineered? Who decided for you that their were? Your own logic about what you think is right and not right?
Words like "manipulating the system" being thrown at anyone that dares not follow YOUR idea of what a base should have or not have.
"How dare you not max your base?"
Whaaaaaa.....
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I think it is fair to say, at the very least, engineering refers to the purposeful exploitation of the MM algorithm, typically for the purpose of matching against clans that are not stronger than one's own clan.
In reality, this also includes anyone who progresses their village at a steady pace, focused on developing an offense that can defeat an enemy of similar weight or above: a 'when you can 3-star it, build it' mentality.
It gets to a stage however, that clashers stretch this optimisation of base progression to an extent where they have a similiar weight as the TH level below, but have an offense that requires less skill to be successful.
This is the space in which the exploitation has an overwhelmingly detrimental impact on the balance of a Clan War match. Reasonable, well-informed clashers understand this, including engineers... especially engineers.
I'm tired of people perpetually arguing "no one knows what engineering really is."
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As much as I'm a relatively partial popcorn munching observer here.....why would you be worried about a hunt?
If you're so unlikely to match the vast majority of lineups, and confident of your attacking skills, I can't see any possible way in which you could fear a hunt.
Backed yourself into a corner with your own comments there Sir.
Last edited by Superfinch30; August 27th, 2017 at 07:25 AM.
here, take a rep, you deserved it
If you claim TH9.5 is weaker then the TH10 in this example, why don't you go ahead yourself and drop the infernos?
Perhaps the problem here is that you don't understand the specifics of each base. In order for this match to occur, the TH10s would have level 2-3 infernos, lv3 xbows, level 11 point, level 7 splash and level 8-10 walls. Their heroes would be in the range of 10/10-20/20. Their troops would be lucky to be all at TH9 level, maybe a few TH10 troop levels and some still at TH8. On the other hand, the TH9.5s have level 13 point, level 4 xbows, level 8 splash and level 10-11 walls. Their heroes at 40/40 and all of the fundamental war troops at TH10 level. Now, tell me the TH10s have it easier. They don't; both are equal.
You claim that your 5/5 account can triple TH9.5s... Well I applaud your efforts. I suppose the base had exterior air defences, level 11 point and was running LaLo cc. Simple dragon hit if the base was a dragon give-me. I'd like to see this account triple a real TH9.5.
Because the match would never occur in the first place if the TH10s had high level heroes and TH10 level lab. Now that would be an unfair match!
Low teenage levelled heroes on an account simply restricts their attacks. Level 13 point is devastating on a teenage hero, I have witnessed it many times. When you only have valks maxed for TH10, there isn't a great deal of choice on your attacks; it is spray and pray. It's even worse when your opponent's base's compartments are 9 tiles wide and you only have level 1 jump, but level 3 quake, because they can't get through level 11 walls fast enough before being roasted by level 13 point and level 10 wizard towers. When you only have maxed LaLo, the queen and air defence placement is basically the dependent variable of the outcome. It's even worse when the opponent's cc is filled with air targeting troops and you can't lure it.
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The problem is not that we don't understand, it's that you have shifted the ground. Remember what we are responding to:
That max defence 10 you started the example with seems to have lost much of its defence now. The hypothetical match you offer of max 10 to 9.5 doesn't occur either (in isolation from rest of clan weight). Our point is that for any attacker any reasonably designed max defence 10 is harder than any reasonably designed 9.5 - which of course it is, it has all the defence that 9.5 could have plus 2 level 3 infernos, by definition. I suspect you are confusing mirrors with what bases your base weight contributed to pulling to the match in the context of whole clans.
In any case this is wandering well off the OP's point, which was the recent changes do not seem to have adversely affected OP's unusual clan.
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