Our searches are 30-40 mins max since the last update
Our searches are 30-40 mins max since the last update
The search was just under 2 hours -- our longest in the history of the clan. They are a tiny bit stronger on paper than us. All the th s are in order though.
Not having a problem with search times, but man these matches are killing us. Only way to an even war is all eagles, just hard to get that every war.
Started a 40v40 war today, enemy clan all Th 11, eagles, max defenses, mostly max walls, offense and heroes (a few with low 40's aq or bk).
We have 30 eagles, 3 solid Th 9's, 3 9.5's, 2 10.5's and 2 9.11. We had more who wanted to war then not and ended up with this lineup. I get the 10.5's and 9.11 matching to 11's. Imo i think that is fair to match my offensive power with defense. But the 9.5's and 9's? I would get being out eagled by 4, but even matching those to 10's would have made more sense than 6 th 11's!
You asketh for what you bringeth.Originally Posted by corbiwink
For the first time, we finally ran 25 vs 25 pure th 9-11 war, no minimax. All we had was th9,5 who just went up from th 9, and th 10,5 with lvl 3 warden. All good. We got fairer match. And I was a bit skeptical at first that SC can really fix this, but they did.
Just right that fair war match that we finally won, after losing to endless engineered clan, we ran another 25 vs 25 with 2 engineered th 11 and th 9. And the result... is a mess. We faced another engineered clan with defense and offense advantage on their side.
My leader made a decision that engineered bases will no longer take place in our war roster.
SC you did it. 😀
Hope it was not a one time luck only though.
Lol you assume this is our normal lineup and completely agree my posts have never been a fan of engineers, but I get the gameplay is what it is. Just pointing out the changes to normalize the matchmaking so like for like clans war is not working as many have pointed out. We normally war with maxers only, but threw in some guys to reach a 40 since 30’s were crushing us taking maxers th 9-11 (always out eagled). We can’t figure out what lineup to take that will give us an equal footing. We have some solid attackers, but in the end usually comes down to who has more eagles. When you take no engineers and still short 5 eagles in a 25-30v war it can make a difference.
We did this too, getting mostly fairer matches...every so often we get one that isnt. Fair doesn't mean even th though, we have faced clans with multiple th11s (we have none) - but won more of those than we lost...putting th10s in with high lvl heroes tend to draw GWs in the opponent.
I think that anyone who puts this match down to your own engineering is off track here. Since the upgrade there has been an issue with big bases like max 10s and 9.5s matching not only big but huge 11s in a way they didn’t used to before and in numbers they didn’t used to before.
To me there’s a structural issue with all wars involving large numbers of big th11, namely that it’s a real disadvantage to have an enemy with an extra big defence 11, never mind 2 or 3, now that those enemy th11s we are seeing are far larger than ones we saw matching non-11s before. With large numbers of th11 wars what matters for fairness is the number of big th11 be equal: it actually doesn’t matter what is on the bottom end, be that say a baby/small 11, a 10.5, a 10, a 9 or god help us a th3 - what matters is whatever the bottom bases are, they are something a decent th11 has a real chance of 3 starring and they are present in equal numbers on each side. Those heavy wars with unequal numbers of th11 are lost more often on defence (just can’t catch up the stars by 3 starring enough th11) as won on attacking.
I would go as far to say that a 10v10 war with, say 8 max th11 and 2 th3 vs 8 max th11 and 2 max th10 was more fair as a match than one with 8 max 11s and 2 10s on one side and 9 max 11s and a 10 on the other.
Last edited by Tomville; October 8th, 2017 at 01:46 AM.
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Well we tried having a weak bottom in a few 30 vs 30 wars because I thought by lowering our overall offensive weight we would get a more fair match up. It worked for a few wars but this most recent war we are matched up with 13 th11 with Max offense to our 2 th11 with Max offense. We will get our butts kicked.
I disagree th11 should be able to 3 star most th10 most of the time with Max troops. It's a mismatch and it happens way too often and now sc will beef up th11 with the next update awesome...
