Clan War Matchmaking Improvements

[k00lkunwar]

B@lls they fixed match making. Last war opponent clan no 8 attacked our no 1 and this war it's going to be no 6. Our war log never looked so bad as it does after the matchmaking bull. Fells like I wanna quit

[Krudler02]

I'd also support a further reduction in the number of available clan size matches to force the pools of players in the remaining ones to be bigger.

[ylit]

First match out of the gate is almost a perfect match in 15v15. Slight advantages for us down low and for them up high...but nothing game-breaking. They have 1 eagle and we don't, but the hero levels on our side make up for it.

2 th11s apiece, both with enough war offensive troops to matter, we have a th9 that just went th10 to make our th10s have 1 extra (that really isn't that much extra...just went th10 yesterday).

Biggest oddity is at the bottom we pretty much have all th9s and one semi-engineered th8 Offense/little defenses, while they have engineered th9 at the bottom and 2 th5s, 1 th6 as fillers or sand bags or whatever you want to call them.

I think we will win with the advantage down low, and our th11s are more than capable to 3 star all but their eagle (and even that may go down).

One war in, I'm happier than a few weeks ago! Hope it lasts in next search

[cjsteve]

i have the same sad story
from 3 clans i was leading 2 years ago, i hardly find 15 ppl to take in war
practically we are 6 real people still standing with our secondary accounts
the rest are dormant zombies

in a month since the MM fixes had begun, we did 15 wars
we lost 5, we are still winning more
but none of the matches was in our advantage or even fair
we just don't give up, sometimes we are better, sometimes we are lucky

i don't know any more how to set our roster. i'm the only th11 remaining in clan who is still opting in
if i take 3-4 x th10, we get more th11 in opps
if i don't take th10, we pull several th10 in opps + 1 th11, we just don't have defense
if i put low in bottom, we pull out engineered

unfortunately we don't have many people available like 2 years ago to try different variations of rosters

Well as I expected got beat out by engineering now my other 11th have opted out I am the only remaining one can't even run a 15... I think I'm just going to postpone Wars since all my hard work building regular villages has gone by the wayside and Engineering has taken over

[Neminoppan]

Well as I expected got beat out by engineering now my other 11th have opted out I am the only remaining one can't even run a 15... I think I'm just going to postpone Wars since all my hard work building regular villages has gone by the wayside and Engineering has taken over

It seems the engineers won and the maxers payed the price...

[PrincessKeys]

Wow. We won that last war (barely) even though 5 of our members could not play. Had they been better attackers, that would not have happened. Their 8s were good and had strong bases. I think many of those 8s were operated by one player. Their 9s+ not so much.

We only missed leveling up by 2 points so I brought in the first 10 who wanted it. I even brought in some new guy I know nothing about.

Us Them
1 -9 1 -9 and 1 rushed 9 (th8)
4 -8 3 -8
3 -7 5 -7
2 -6

This looks to be a fairly balanced war.

It boils down to a face off between me on my younger twin 9 and their #1. His base is slightly strong than mine but I have more war stars so we will see. My 8s are a touch stronger than his.

[Kirch3b21]

Will never be even matchmaking until SC decides to address engineered bases. They say they want all strategies to be incorporated, but now there's only one. Engineer or face a clan 2x your strength. Only option. This is the game now, and the only matching strategy. Plain and simply put

[ditch]

I deliberately avoided doing a search on Tuesday, and the result was worth the wait. Outstanding match.

Because our clan has 2 max TH10s up top (both mine), we have been pretty much guaranteed a TH11 on the other side. This wouldn't be so bad if it was *a* TH11, but most of the time lately it has been 2-4 TH11s, sometimes with 1-2 eagles, "balanced" by having either no-defense bases or TH5/6 bases on bottom. We still won most of the time but several of those wins involved barely getting by against very low-skill opponents (e.g. nothing but spam attacks)

Our war match yesterday also has the opposing clan with 3 TH11s, but all the TH11s have offense that is overall weaker than a max TH10, mostly due to low hero levels and not having TH11 troops. Also there are no eagles on their side. Their side has an advantage on bottom, with 1 more TH9, but we have 1 more base with infernos than they do. Because the other clan has rushed TH11s to get the Warden (without maxing it out), they stand almost no chance against us.

I do think war MM should have a slight bias in favor of players who put the time into DE farming to get better heroes, but only to a certain point. On one hand, the TH9 or TH10 with 5/10 heroes and max defense should be a liability to its side. On the other hand, the TH11 with 45/45/20 heroes and max healers but TH10 defense should have a vastly higher MM weight than just a max TH10. I hope the new MM system continues to strike the right balance!


edit: to the reply above me, this update is specifically supposed to address that. Time will tell if it does, but don't pretend like it wasn't acknowledged!

[Bernardo333]

Schaltet die blöden Infernos ab, bis... (sorry for writing german)
Ihr ein faires match making hin bekommt.

Es ist nach dem Update leider nur noch schlimmer geworden... unsere stärkste Defense ist ein RH9 im aktuellen CK.
Die beste Offensive des Gegners ist ein RH11 mit Drachen 6, Blitz 7 und Wächter 7.

Die stärkste Deff beim Gegner ist ein RH10 mit 2 Infernos.

Was ist so schwer daran, die starken Offensiven gegen die starken Defensiven zu matchen?
Man muss natürlich wissen, mit welchen Offensiven, man welche Defense schaffen kann. Vielleicht spielt Ihr Euer Spiel selbst nicht? oder...
Vielleicht solltet Ihr Euch auch mal mit einem Mathematiker zum Thema match making unterhalten?

Aber... ihr habt ja nichts besseres zu tun als eine Meisterhütte L7 zu bauen... tststs.

Viele Leute, dich ich kenne, verlieren den Spaß am CK

Sorry for writing german, but I want to say, what I have to say

[Bernardo333]

Stop Infernos ... until you can manage a fair matchmaking.

It is unfortunately only worse after the update ... our strongest defense is a TH9 in the current CW.
The best offensive of the enemy is a TH11 with dragon level 6, lightning level 7 and guardian level 7.

The strongest Defense of the opponent is a TH10 with 2 infernos.

What is so hard to match the strong offensive against the strong defensive?
You have to know, of course, with which offensives, which defense you can beat. Maybe you do not play your own game? or...
Maybe you should also have a mathematician on the subject of matchmaking?

But ... you have nothing better to do than to present a builder base level 7 in the new update... tststs.

Many people, I spoke to, lose the fun on CW