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    War matchups are getting worse we have had an absolute guts full of it, last war three th11's to our none! (one down in tenth amongst our th8's) it three stared our top two by the way this absolute crud I no longer want to press the war search button of fear of what we will get. You can say what ever you want but supercell can very easily fix this problem but refuse to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COASTALVIKINGS View Post
    War matchups are getting worse we have had an absolute guts full of it, last war three th11's to our none! (one down in tenth amongst our th8's) it three stared our top two by the way this absolute crud I no longer want to press the war search button of fear of what we will get. You can say what ever you want but supercell can very easily fix this problem but refuse to do so.
    All I can say to posts like these is LOL... The information you are giving here, (ie. three TH11's to our none) is irrelevant information without more details. Secondly there is no easy fix, that is clear and I've been saying it for months. Doesn't mean they shouldn't continue working on it, but it's not an easy fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeroboam View Post
    Why not just increase the stars on offer for higher TH's?

    TH11 = 6 stars available
    TH10 = 5 stars
    TH9 = 4
    TH8 = 3

    And so on. This way engineered bases have their superior firepower countered by the potential for losing more stars on defence.
    You know... this isnt a bad idea. I mean, an engineered base can easily give up 3 stars yet gain 6 in clan wars. If there is an offset that would be a 6:6 then it wouldnt be such a lopsided matching. I still think there should be a forfeit/surrender/decline option upon matchmaking that allows either/both clan to decline the war matchup within the first 30 mins after matching. I actually think this will be the best way to deal with engineered clans because no one will want to war against them and it will take the fun out of creating lopsided bases that allow you to ♥♥♥♥ your opponent. Just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SumoSloth View Post
    All I can say to posts like these is LOL... The information you are giving here, (ie. three TH11's to our none) is irrelevant information without more details.
    I'm sorry you cannot understand it but it is as clear as day to me. The other team has 6 dragon barfs that will completely wipe out their top 6 no matter how skilled his "not 11s" are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SumoSloth View Post
    All I can say to posts like these is LOL... The information you are giving here, (ie. three TH11's to our none) is irrelevant information without more details. Secondly there is no easy fix, that is clear and I've been saying it for months. Doesn't mean they shouldn't continue working on it, but it's not an easy fix.
    Under what circumstances could a TH11 in 10th spot with a defensive weight of a TH8 who can three star the top two bases (TH10s) in the opposing lineup be a fair match. I think to be fair the information provided is sufficient to determine the unevenness of the matchup.

    It's not an easy fix by any stretch but it's very easy to go back to something that was better you would think. Only that would require SC to admit that they got it wrong and to my recollection, that has never happened!

    Communication Failure 101 : Companies refuse to be transparent and explain what went wrong, rather than owning up to things and making them right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wdk935gsx View Post
    Oh wait.... Maybe i spoke to early. We just searched again and got an EVEN WORSE matchup. Completely engineered clan. TH11s, LavaLooners with Max Lava Hounds, Max Loons, 3 royals with at least Lvl 10 each. Here is our new matchup. 15 v 15

    My Clan: (#990CR9LR) Wikd Down Kings
    5 x TH10s
    - 1 is rushed, 1 is a new TH10, 1 is honestly engineered with Royals at Level 10 only though, TH8 defenses, but max Air Def and teslas; 2 are solid TH10s, Lvl 20 Royals,
    8 x TH9s
    - 1 is super rushed (Hes only 7 years old); 2 are maxed TH9s with lvl 20+ Royals; other 5 are solid TH9s
    2 x TH7s :
    - early to mid TH7s

    Matched clan: (#L8JQUUV)
    4 x TH11s
    - These occupy the 10,11,13,15 position in the
    # 15 - 1 cannon (only defense) level 11 double cannon; 3 Royals, King level 8, Queen Lvl 9; Grand Warden level5; Max Dragons, Max Loons, level 1 Lava Hound; Max Lightning and Rage; All other troops and spells - Level 1
    #13 - Lvl 10 Queen, Level 9 King, Level 5 GW 2 level 1 air Defenses, 1 level 4 air def, 1 mortor, 1 level 10 double cannon - ONLY DEFENSES; Offensive troops: Max Dragons, Loons, lvl 1 Lava hound; max lightning, rage; All other spells and most troops Level 1 only
    #11: Offense: Max Loons, Max Lava Hound, Max Dragon; max lightning and rage. All other troops and spells level 1; Royals: K: 7, Q:6, GW: 4
    Defense:3 lvl 7 air def; 3 lvl 12 cannon, 1 Lvl 9 Wiz Tower, 1 x lvl 14 archer tower, 2 x lvl 13 Archer towers, 2 lvl 7 Mortars
    #10 : Offense: Max Loons, Max Dragon, Max LV Hound, Max Rage, Lighning. Most other troops level 2: Royals: K =9, Q = 15, GW =10
    Defense: 3 lvl 12 cannons, 4 lvl 12 Archer towers, 2 Lvl 9 Wiz towers, 1 lvl 8 Mortar.

    Rest of matchup: 5 TH10s , 5 TH9s

    Do i even need to go into this more. This clan is by definition an Engineered clan. Our clan, other than the 1 engineered base is a legit building family clan, our flaw is more on rushing, but not being heavy on offense and low on defense or rather lacking in defense all together.

    We have all decided to forfeit this war as well, When the enemy clans #13,15 can take out your 1 and 2 and your 1 and 2 cant take out their 1 and 2, the war is over before it even started.

    THIS MATCH-UP IS RUBBISH We are now losing an entire week of war. If this keeps up, not sure how much longer im going to play COC. Maybe ill just abandon my base and only play BH town. Sure as hell aint going to give any money to Super Cell if this keeps up. Please fix this!!! This is so much worse than it ever was......

    Wanted to follow up this post.... We completely forfeited this war 0:45. That said. Their #13 3 starred our 1 and 2. With that being accomplished, why would we even bother participating. 2 Awful Matches back to back and we are taking rest of week off to try and start fresh on Sunday morning. Waste of an entire week of wars... SMH
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    Quote Originally Posted by SumoSloth View Post
    All I can say to posts like these is LOL... The information you are giving here, (ie. three TH11's to our none) is irrelevant information without more details. Secondly there is no easy fix, that is clear and I've been saying it for months. Doesn't mean they shouldn't continue working on it, but it's not an easy fix.
    I will lay it out for you :
    They had three th11 max Laloon freeze army spell capacity moderate heroes 15 warden enough to spam three star our top two guys who were solid th10' so they had an easy perfect war, our only hope was to get a draw and their number one was a th11 with Infernos but no eagle ..... So our number one two stared him a three was always going to be a stretch. Of coarse it's an easy fix matchups should be townhall for townhall where is the complication?

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    Oh yeah when they banned steroids in the Olympics was there people saying oh but we won't be able to win without out our advantage?? Same deal you engineered to gain an unfair advantage remove the advantage let them find a way to win fairly....

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    Quote Originally Posted by COASTALVIKINGS View Post
    War matchups are getting worse we have had an absolute guts full of it, last war three th11's to our none! (one down in tenth amongst our th8's) it three stared our top two by the way this absolute crud I no longer want to press the war search button of fear of what we will get. You can say what ever you want but supercell can very easily fix this problem but refuse to do so.
    Your th8 start at 10? Run bigger wars. each overpowered base is 10 percent of 10v10, but 2.5% on 40v40.
    Meanwhile, in the builder base, a tired Battle Machine operator limps home. He is bruised by giant cannon balls. His spine is compressed by crushers. His hair and beard is singed by roasters. He pours three fingers of Old Tennessee, and slumps into a rocking chair. He stares morosely at at an empty rug in front of a cold fireplace. A single tear escapes his left eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COASTALVIKINGS View Post
    I will lay it out for you :
    They had three th11 max Laloon freeze army spell capacity moderate heroes 15 warden enough to spam three star our top two guys who were solid th10' so they had an easy perfect war, our only hope was to get a draw and their number one was a th11 with Infernos but no eagle ..... So our number one two stared him a three was always going to be a stretch. Of coarse it's an easy fix matchups should be townhall for townhall where is the complication?
    Thank you for providing slightly more information, still not enough to make an informed decision as to whether the war was fair or not, but I hope you understand that by just saying we had no x number of th11's and they had y number of th11's it doesn't tell us anything.

    As a matter of fact, in our last war we were doubled in the number of Th11s against us vs. our th11s. Guess what, we won. So that's why I laugh anytime someone makes a post just like you did. Because the number of th11s is irrelevant without more information in the war.

    As for your easy fix... Again, as it's been pointed out hundreds of times on these forums, just matching th for th is a terrible idea. Why you ask? Because all it does is create a new form of engineering whereby only max bases would be allowed in war, and while that may suit you just fine, you would be in the minority.

    I think that matchmaking still needs to be improved. However, posting incomplete information, (as I've said before), does very little to validate the claims of unfair wars. Superstorm does a tremendous job of outlining war matchups and giving knowledgable assesments of a war's "fairness". You should check out his posts.

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