Clan War Matchmaking Improvements

[Chang405]

Let the rushers throw a fit. It would only encourage them to spend more money to catch up. Supercell wins and we get the game fixed.

There is another word for rushers......casual players. While it is possible they would spend money after throwing a fit, what's more likely is that they would quit the game. I'll quote myself from another thread.

Hardcore players (in any game) always seem to clamor for the developer to cater to their interests and disregard the masses of casuals. You guys are forgetting hardcore players always make up a small percentage of game players. The masses of casuals you are so willing to throw under the bus is the bedrock of the game community and, if I were to guess, provides the majority of revenue.

Seems a bit hypocritical for someone to ask for a system that would be more fair to their own needs yet be unfair to countless other players.

[Prince1999]

It seems like extreme engineering, defenseless, is still effective.

Not that it's ever going to change though. I firmly believe that SC has been, and will continue to promote sandbagging. There is simply no other rational explanation since I don't believe them to be incompetent.

It's absurd. It's ridiculous. It's asinine and it's just the way that SC and it's favored sandbaggers like it.

I think the mistake we are making here is elevating 'engineering' to the level of a 'playstyle' It isn't, never has been.
It's simply a way of taking advantage of a loophole in the war matchmaking system.
Unfortunately it made SC some money so they are loathe to fix it. They should bite the bullet and clean up their game!

Aren't they not catering to the non-engineered playstyle by not fixing the matchmaker? It seems they have tried to please both, but haven't been successful in finding a way to do so. They might just have to pick one and go for it, much like they did with hall sniping.

You are correct, they have chosen to continue to favor the engineer. As far as I am concerned, they have picked them over the traditional build player. ♥♥♥ has managed the game for over a year now as though it was dying and they were milking the last out of it. It appears that it will be a self fulfilling prophecy.

[evilmousse]

my clan's about ready to quit wars entirely until coc fixes its <stuff>. last few wars have our 1 11 outnumbered vs 3 or 4, seeing eagleless 11s and infernoless 10s much more than before patch. it's killed all enthusiasm and we're done trying.

[TullSadum]

Same here, our entirely non engineered clan (not a single .5s nor even any 'intelligently upgraded' bases)
get's matched not with lopsided bases but with .5 engineers every single time since the MM update,
some even have lopsided bases but these are then right at the bottom of the map.
Wars have become extremely frustrating, with a quarter or a third of the opponents' attacks being a lot stronger than ours.
We run back to back wars of 10:10 to 20:20. Our win rate has gone from 60-70% to 25% and winning relies on opponents making mistakes.
MM now seems to favor .5 engineering clans heavily.
And CW shouldn't be about which clan engineers better than the other but
rather a test of skill and teamwork versus an honourable adversary, atm wars for our clan are far from this, further than before the change.
SC please do something.

Thanks
TS

[jjd222002]

Just wanted to report in that we FINALLY got a matchup that was closer to being equal. All th10 and below. We brought 2 th10's. They brought 4 th10's. Th9 land was even 7 vs 7. Th8 land was even as well, 4 vs 4. We had 2 th7's. They had none.

Hopefully, the opening statement didn't confuse anyone. Mm is a joke still and while I'm happy to FINALLY see no th11's vs the above roster, I'm getting tired of it.

As impractical as it may seem, the th itself needs more weight in war. Obviously, troops won't be weighted to compensate for this ongoing problem so, just make the th worth the max value of the th below it irregardless of the rest of the base and add weight from there.

TH sniping was removed because people weren't playing the game "as intended". War shouldn't have been intended to have the mess we have today either.

And TS, well said above. Especially this, "winning relies on opponents making mistakes". This is most of the reason we have some greens recently. It's sad when prep day starts and the best result you can hope for is a draw(100%).

[Rephren]

We're very sorry for your mismatches in war, I hope they improve for you soon. Here at Supercell we need to keep engineered bases around as they make us plenty cash. So, while we commiserate with your issues you're experiencing, we won't nuke engineered bases.

Clash on!
Supercell

[Superfinch30]

Just as a random....actually seeing pretty good matchups in random spins as of late.

Pretty close lane-by-lane BDs, if there are engineered bases on the other side there's usually a small defensive compensation on our side.

But then, admittedly, that's from the perspective of a fairly serious war clan.
They might get a cover advantage, in that can have more attempts up top via th11 off/th9 def bases, but we regularly 3* 9.5-weak 10s with 10s, 10.5-weak 11s with 11s.

That's the deal breaker really. It's not overly easy. If your clan can't do it, then engineering holds a much bigger advantage over those that can.

[Mat5592]

Just this week alone, our family clans have seen the following TH11 breakdowns in war: 3v13 5v15 and 10v34. Worse than it's ever been.

[JonnyVW]

Matchmaking is worse then ever, this war we have 5 th11s, they have 9 scattered up and down all over the place and our are all at the top with eagles, so messed up

[Siberio]

We didn't start many wars since the update, but we are carefully checking our members, avoiding bases that could be considered engineered. We had pretty fair matches, enemy team shower up with a lopsided base but did not have that much of an impact, he only attacked to loot last minute.