Folks hate to break ranks with the pity-party but just ran our fifth war new era and got a very even matchup. Us 2x11, 2x10, 9s on down. Them 1x11, 3x10, 9s on down. They have more infernoes. We have better heroes. We have one engineered 11 in the lower ranks. They have 2 engineered 10s in the lower ranks.
This war will be decided by well executed attacks and good target selection .
May the best clan win.
After 4 match ups of war in my clan I'd say it's working on more even match ups. My first wasn't it was against an engineered clan but we had an 8.5 in the war. Next war we took out the .5 and got closer but they were still roster engineering. Last 2 wars we have gotten almost completely fair. They both had engineers at the bottom but pathetic engineers. We are currently on a 8 win streak so not sure if thats messed up or not. Current team we are facing has 2 extra th9s both very low weight. Two th9 engineers at the bottom not very good. They have 2 max th10s up top vs our 2 early th10s but im sure has more to do with their low weight from the defenseless engineers.
NO.... I would happily wait as long as it takes for an even match. Its far better than wasting 2 days with a terrible match.Originally Posted by PapaTroll
This ^^^ a million of this!
Agree! Much better to walk away from the game! Found a much better one! Thanks for the memories SC. it's a shame you couldn't keep my interest.
Collectors and storage are out. Can't use resources anyway because I have nothing to spend them on. No longer interested in sitting in clouds. Disinterested in smashing opponents for 8 wars in a row then having a ridiculously unfair matchup in the opponents favour.
All the best everyone!
"Smashing" opponents 8 wars in a row is good but if they win it is because of a bad match?
Here is the basic problem. Everyone wants an advantage in war. But only one side can win every war. You are asking for a system that gives everyone the advantage, and no one loses. Elsewhere in this thread is a "complaint" that his clan used to always win, but since the new MMA went live he had 3 wars in a row decided by the tie-breaker because of unfair matchup. That is right. If he doesn't win by 5 stars then it is unfair.
We have plenty of stories of cans being placed at a disadvantage by the new MMA. Far fewer about clans getting a decided advantage, so I guess that just never happens. All based on the four or five wars we have each seen, so few it is statistically meaningless.
What we need is hard data as a starting point for discussion. I estimate there are between 30k and 50k active clans engaged in war. that means about 200k - 500k wars fought since new MMA went active. Does Supercell have some data on these wars? Percentage of wars decided by 5 or more stars, before and after new MMA adjustments would be a strong indicator. Percentage of wars decided by one star or tie is another good indicator. Hard data is a good starting point for informed, intelligent discussion of whether the MMA is improving or hurting matches.
I don't see anyone asking for an "advantage". I see people asking for equal matchups. If I am in the top position in war as a th9, I don't want my "hardest" choice to be a maxed 8. In the same way, I don't want to be the bait for a th11. I don't want to smash lower ths and I don't want 11s smashing me. Translated: I want the win to be based on my skill of attack rather than spamming high level troops.
We matched to our fifth war after the update tonight. Two wars were bad matches but I looked at our own bases after the two bad matches.
I had four TH8s I was playing my own games with. :P Not engineered but were .5s. I added their missing defenses and three wars in a row were close matches after that. It seems to have helped to balance my own bases. I also suggested our TH9s get their xbows.
It does seem that .5s will increase the likelihood that you will get engineers. I had taken it too far perhaps too. It's still too early to know for sure. I was ready to just engineer but I noticed the engineers we were getting had all of their defenses, just at low levels. It could all go bad again fast but it seems to be better if we don't play our own games.
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To be fair.... I started war yesterday and the match up was strangly mainly lower lvs being some kind of half breed mutated engineered bases. Like they suddenly scrambled defences like they knew their pure engineering days wernt the same no more n rushed upgraded defences to some how snap back to reality, oops there goes gravity
Many people want even matches with equal useful offense and defense so the result is determined by the attacking and designing skill of the players. That would mean if your clan is much more skilled than the other, you destroy them by several stars with an even match. It would mean if both clans have similar skill the match is very close.
As far as the stories about clans getting an advantage, I have seen those too, but naturally see more complaints about a bad match. Part of that is expected given people are more likely to complain than to compliment, especially after gaining hope from SC that the matchmaker would be fixed. Part of it is because those who are consistently getting an advantage might not want it to change. They will just keep on keeping on. Personally, I don't want a big advantage or disadvantage. I would much rather have 10 even matches than have 10 uneven matches, even if 8 of them are in my favor.
I care little about the % of wars decided by 5 or more stars as that tells me almost nothing. Percentage of wars decided by 1 star or less tells me more, but still isn't determinative of an even match, especially when "recent war success" is a factor.
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