So tired of this..
We never faced engi, we had pretty balanced wars. Sometimes little advantage, sometimes little disadvantage; That's the game.
But this the "improvement", the matchmaking is hell for us. Almost full engi clans in front of us.
So tired of this..
We never faced engi, we had pretty balanced wars. Sometimes little advantage, sometimes little disadvantage; That's the game.
But this the "improvement", the matchmaking is hell for us. Almost full engi clans in front of us.
Our first two wars after the update were horrendous. We lost to both fully engineered clans by a margin of 54-60 and 55-59. Both clans at least had double the number of th11s and th 10s that we had. Our third war looks better but there is still a defensless 10 sitting at the bottom of the map with a fully upgraded lavaloon. Support is useless and just says Supercell is working on the matchmaker. We are sitting out wars until Supercell can deliver a finished product and not use their customers as guinea pigs.
Appreciated your efforts. But here is an idea that may take some shine off those engineered clans and put some new strategies within clan wars. How about a time bonus for battles within a clan war for those that hit up a townhall level, say 10 secs per level, and a time penalty for each th level down. The idea is there but the numbers would need consideration.
Any chance we can have some input on how they feel it is working? By reading the feedback thread at best the reception is 50/50. I know my clan has never had worse matchups.
Just wanted to see if the matchmaker is going as expected in which case my clan will stop warring or can we expect fair wars in the future.
Thanks
I just want to throw this out there.. our engineered clan is doing amazing! The little lambs thrown at us lately have been great! We are getting WAY under matched... war wins are great for resources... everyone gets to loot their number one or two base and our streak is now at 10.. and it was a PERFECT WAR! Loving the new algorithm!
This new algorithm is, as another poster stated, like AGENT SMITH in the matrix. WAr MM is still SO BAD, its only going to make more clans take up engineering which ultimately, will make the MM even worse.. vicious cycle..
But lets think about this a little deeper.. what is the motivation?? For SC, its money.. as it is for any business... so how does money play into this.. Their options are fix it.. or don't fix it.. what will earn them more money??
1) They fix it.. and the only way to truly fix this is to BAN ANYONE FROM WAR UNTIL THEY HAVE ALL DEFENSES FROM THE PREVIOUS TH (not maxed, just level 1) (Note, this allows the .5 base and Note, this does not prevent rushing it only prevents you from war. You can still farm, just not eligible for war).
IMPACT: People most likely to walk away from the game. You wont let me war, then I Quit this game! Their revenue goes down VERY FAST from the "first generation players" and new players dont know any different but with the bad publicity, new players might not be as interested.
2) They Don't Fix it (Essentially, what they are doing now).. People get frustrated but either grumble through it or some even take up engineering
IMPACT: Revenue fluctuates but most likely increases as people GEM new, and second accounts to catch up. Plus, like the stupid humans we are, HOPE keeps us playing longer as we buy into their "we're fixing it" and "We have a new forum representative". We are more likely to "hang in there" if we believe they are and will fix it, than if they made the hard choice or admitted they are not fixing it.
People have to realize SC does nothing for the love of the game... they are only motivated by MONEY. You also have to realize that us on the forums is maybe 1% or less of the playing population. Think of the millions of players and clans that are simply "engineering" themselves and never read a post here. We are the most passionate.. but maybe we're also the most stupid?!
Anyway.. I have to go back and prep for our 11th win! Clash on
Last edited by damnBORG; September 5th, 2017 at 10:33 AM.
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Is anyone else finding that the match making (MM) system is now very, very slow at finding a match in wars?
We are a 'no walls' clan & have lost our past four wars as we have been paired with much stronger engineered clans (it's ok - I get that that is the point of the MM update & yes it works just fine, when it works).
Over the past 24 hours, we have restarted the war search four times (the longest war search run time was 9 hours...)
Far as i am aware its still being tweaked
Team member ("TM"): Hey boss, some forumer wants to know our position on the new war mm?
Dev: Sigh - those pesky players. Why can't they just leave us alone to roll around in our cash....
TM: I know boss, tell you what, shall I just get Darian to do a quick couple of lines of PR mumbo jumbo?
Dev: Ok. That will give us another couple of months to do nothing.
Darian: Awww boss, do I really have too? Sigh.
Dev: Sorry Darian me ol' mucker - but we are paying you to deal with these pesky players so we don't have too.
Darian: Ok I'll just post... "The current data shows the war mm has improved but we are still seeing some mismatches. We are continuing to monitor the situation and will tweak and change where necessary".
Dev: Sounds good. "High Five"
Last edited by Damiz; September 5th, 2017 at 11:25 AM.
Time to have clear changes.
Step 1: broke the matchmaking by changing it: done
Step 2: make people complain: done
Step 3: think about hard choices and change
Step 4: Make players not available for wars if they hadn't dropped all defs for their actual TH.
Originally Posted by Damiz
Great reply.. probably not too far from the truth!
Since I can't cut and paste my reply from the other topic, I will simply say that my engineered clan love the new MM.. we just hit 10 straight with a perfect war for our 10th. Looks like we will hit 11 tonight. So far, so easy.. LOVING IT!
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