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    Like many others, I am getting tired of engineered bases. I still dont see why matchmaking needs to be complicated. Just use TH level and thats it. If I have 10xTH9 and 5xTH8 in my team, match me against the same. I would rather a longer wait for a match up and have a sensible war than a quick matchup against a one sided battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skrags View Post
    Do you mean like the TH11 update just before the Xmas holidays?
    Are you suggesting an announcement and then :-



    yep. just like how they broke 16:10 android tablets last update, and no staff has said a word about it.
    only a helpful mod.
    https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...-so-big/page50

    break the game and run!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fennster1969 View Post
    Like many others, I am getting tired of engineered bases. I still dont see why matchmaking needs to be complicated. Just use TH level and thats it. If I have 10xTH9 and 5xTH8 in my team, match me against the same. I would rather a longer wait for a match up and have a sensible war than a quick matchup against a one sided battle.
    So then you wouldn't mind your new TH9 with level 1 X-Bows, level 10 King, Level 1 Queen and TH8 troops, matching against a maxed TH9 with level 3 X-Bows, level 30 heroes and max Th9 troops? Since you're asking for straight TH matching without thought to the actual development levels of the respective bases..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by MouthofSauron View Post
    So then you wouldn't mind your new TH9 with level 1 X-Bows, level 10 King, Level 1 Queen and TH8 troops, matching against a maxed TH9 with level 3 X-Bows, level 30 heroes and max Th9 troops? Since you're asking for straight TH matching without thought to the actual development levels of the respective bases..............
    Why couldn't they match another new th9 with level 1 bows, level 1 queen, th8 troops? Why does it mean they have to match a maxed th9? You're making this out like maxed 9s would love to prey on new 9s. That's not necessary true. Some would love to face them, some like me wouldn't. I didn't spend years of my life perfecting my craft to use against inferior competition. I'll take a maxed 9 on go one...

    Wait, who is complaining about losing to a townhall their own level? No one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXXCHRISXXx View Post
    Why couldn't they match another new th9 with level 1 bows, level 1 queen, th8 troops? Why does it mean they have to match a maxed th9? You're making this out like maxed 9s would love to prey on new 9s. That's not necessary true. Some would love to face them, some like me wouldn't. I didn't spend years of my life perfecting my craft to use against inferior competition. I'll take a maxed 9 on go one...

    Wait, who is complaining about losing to a townhall their own level? No one...
    Read what he wrote. Simple TH to TH matching. Period. Which would not make the situation any better than it currently is.

    I'm not saying it couldn't match new TH9 to new TH9, but if it's strictly based on TH VS TH matching, what are the chances of that? If it's set up as TH VS TH, then in the eyes of the MM a new TH9 is no different than a max TH9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXXCHRISXXx View Post
    Why couldn't they match another new th9 with level 1 bows, level 1 queen, th8 troops?
    Because there wasnt one searching. The existing MM would have found the match if it was that exact. The question is what happens when there isn't a perfect match (ie always)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MouthofSauron View Post
    Read what he wrote. Simple TH to TH matching. Period. Which would not make the situation any better than it currently is.

    I'm not saying it couldn't match new TH9 to new TH9, but if it's strictly based on TH VS TH matching, what are the chances of that? If it's set up as TH VS TH, then in the eyes of the MM a new TH9 is no different than a max TH9.
    The chances would be zero for those who match my clan because we wouldn't let a brand new th9 be in our wars if it was straight hall matching.

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    Informal poll: in your matchups, how many non-max bases do you see for every max or near-max at th9 and th10?

    I'm hesitant even to hazard a guess because human brains are notoriously bad at estimating frequencies of rare events; but for us at least, encountering a max base is rare enough to be noteworthy. It has to be at least a 10:1 ratio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXXCHRISXXx View Post
    Why couldn't they match another new th9 with level 1 bows, level 1 queen, th8 troops? Why does it mean they have to match a maxed th9? You're making this out like maxed 9s would love to prey on new 9s. That's not necessary true. Some would love to face them, some like me wouldn't. I didn't spend years of my life perfecting my craft to use against inferior competition. I'll take a maxed 9 on go one...

    Wait, who is complaining about losing to a townhall their own level? No one...
    Well said! Yea the most unforgettable wars are those that are the most evenly matched across the board offensively, defensively and equally skilled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by posthoc View Post
    Informal poll: in your matchups, how many non-max bases do you see for every max or near-max at th9 and th10?

    I'm hesitant even to hazard a guess because human brains are notoriously bad at estimating frequencies of rare events; but for us at least, encountering a max base is rare enough to be noteworthy. It has to be at least a 10:1 ratio.
    That would change if the game moved to TH level matching. Engineers would permabase and crush their opponents. High end competitive clans would have massive advantages in random spins, especially random spins that do not occur at potluck times.

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