Uneven match!!...ENGINEERED BASES

[WiseGuyClasher]

speaking of that... why is it taking anoushka 3 weeks to find out a simple answer to what they did to loons, and witches, and other unnanounced changes..


https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...1#post10522141


appreciate your effort, but come on man..

So much this!!! It blows my mind that SC overall won't even comment and Darian seems to just be blatantly pretending none of those questions exist. Don't talk to us about transparency when there are still questions from the last update you haven't bothered to even acknowledge. Notice how last update there was a thread for unannounced changes that popped up before the update was even live? That is how SC feels about transparency.

Most of the engineered bases you see are second (or further down the ladder) accounts of people who saw the changes in MM and adapted to them. I know when we started seeing a lot of engineered accounts against us in war I started engineering on a th6 I had and started a new defenseless base. Both are now th10 with good war troops. No money spent on either. In the time people have been complaining, they could have easily made a base of their own.

Agreed. As soon as it got bad enough that we were seeing these every other war we brought in a couple of our own and a couple in our clan started their own. A lot of the engineered clans / bases out there are more a response to the engineering problem than an indicator that people enjoy playing that way.

After years of effort and large sums of $ that many people have put into engineered accounts, I hope whatever changes are made with this regard do not render engineered accounts utterly useless. Otherwise, they should have done that ages ago.

There is nothing about an engineered base that can't be fixed with farming. All defenses are still available to be dropped. Nothing useless about it.

[Shunyata]

Idk about all that. I'm certain that IF Supercell has found a way to balance things, they're going to continue balancing them. Meaning, as soon as you think you have it figured out, they're going to change things again. If they're confident they have a solution, it isn't going to be a one shot deal.

Btw: You slipped a jab in there that won't go unnoticed. Everyone that doesn't play your way is "dumb and lazy"...

Lol. I didn't say dumb, I said stubborn. Yes there are a lot of players that resist change because they're stubborn. The rest of the players will adapt.

[xXXCHRISXXx]

Lol. I didn't say dumb, I said stubborn. Yes there are a lot of players that resist change because they're stubborn. The rest of the players will adapt.

The opposite of smart is what? Doesn't matter much of what you said but more of what you implied. It'll be hard to adapt to an ever changing algorithm, good luck.

[nerfedname]

And what do you think the engineers did? They didn't engineer their mains. They built new bases.

ding ding ding

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

If it becomes incumbent upon the player base to maintain multiple accounts, at various stages of upgrade progression, both offensively and defensively, JUST to compete on equal footing in clan wars then the game is in a heap of trouble. The average player and the masses won't stand for that. They won't make a second engineered TH11 account, they'll simply move on and find a better game.

I suspect many have already done so including, to some extent, myself.

[Milo123]

There is nothing about an engineered base that can't be fixed with farming. All defenses are still available to be dropped. Nothing useless about it.

For people such as myself, who have created engineered accounts simply for the sake of having engineered accounts, they would essentially become useless as I have no desire or intention of spending another year or 2 catching up on their defenses.

I'm all for a fair fight, but it would really suck for all the time and effort put into building these bases to be for nothing. It would be a lot less sucky if they addressed this problem a long time ago as they should have.

[Rst]

We are in a 15v15 war against an engineered clan and I came here to post how fed up our clan is getting with it but found this thread already going.

The whole thing is endemic now and it sucks all fun out of the game for us for 48 hours.

We are not the best at war and we are not the worst but we just enjoy warring whether we win or lose, obviously more if we win. We are just a bunch of guys and girls who are now slowly being driven away as the result is obvious at the start of prep day.

Sure we can engineer ourselves and I'm sure some people have done that but this is a game, albeit an excellent game but it's not my profession or vocation, just something to pass the time.

We used to get an engineered clan very rarely but now it's becoming the norm.

I see 2 reasons for this. Either most people are engineering or a lot of casual clans have given up warring so there is now a greater concentration of engineered clans. I suspect it is the latter which would be a great shame.

Anyway, I hope there is something positive coming soon -

I am happy to forfeit/ surrender a war against an engineered clan as it is a Pyrrhic victory for them anyway and we can move on to the next war and let them have their meaningless winning streak.

[Rst]

For people such as myself, who have created engineered accounts simply for the sake of having engineered accounts, they would essentially become useless as I have no desire or intention of spending another year or 2 catching up on their defenses.

I'm all for a fair fight, but it would really suck for all the time and effort put into building these bases to be for nothing. It would be a lot less sucky if they addressed this problem a long time ago as they should have.

From your comment you seem to realise that engineering gives an unfair advantage but if you want a fair fight, as I see it, there is no need to get rid of engineered accounts just match them to other engineered clans/ bases in war.

[DevilsFan1973]

Seeing the same thing and we're losing players because of it. Its very frustrating.

Current war breakdown:
17/8/5 (us) vs. 27/0/3 (them)

[Milo123]

From your comment you seem to realise that engineering gives an unfair advantage but if you want a fair fight, as I see it, there is no need to get rid of engineered accounts just match them to other engineered clans/ bases in war.

This is what I have been saying, and hope is the case with whatever "fix" they come up with. Engineering doesn't necessarily give an unfair advantage. In fact, as of late, it is mostly about leveling the playing field or even just having a fighting chance against superior engineers.

[SuperStorm103]

For people such as myself, who have created engineered accounts simply for the sake of having engineered accounts, they would essentially become useless as I have no desire or intention of spending another year or 2 catching up on their defenses.

I'm all for a fair fight, but it would really suck for all the time and effort put into building these bases to be for nothing. It would be a lot less sucky if they addressed this problem a long time ago as they should have.

I fill this way about BH do. I have absolutely no drive to do BH on all my accounts. I think I am currently working it on 3 of them. Luckily my not normal accounts are not extremely lopsided. They will not take long to fix at all. Much easier then the BH path for all of them.

I'm curious what the announcement will be. Maybe they will just attempt to fill us in on what the MM takes into consideration to justify these extreme paper mismatches (like skill level). Along with changing the weight of a few items like reducing the weight of the eagle artillery and infernos and bumping the weight of point defenses and adding weight to the warden. I doubt it will be any sort of drastic change. No matter what thought if it is a step in the right direction I will be happy.