 Equal Rights For Small Hoods 

[JessOfTheDerbyvilles]

With all the risks and difficulty of co ordinating the larger NH, having a small NH comes with the disadvantage of not having items to swap/buy on tap to complete tasks quickly. As a solo player, I sometimes struggle to somplete tasks when I have key ingredients missing, and Town tasks are near on impossible. Now the easier tasks, such as mining, are rarely available as a 320 tasks, playing as a solo player has become more difficult for no return on special prizes etc.

On balance, I would argue being a smaller of solo NH is just as difficult, just in a different way. I've stopped playing the Derby because of this

Indeed. Specialty townie tasks, especially, are about impossible to do as are, of course, help tasks…. I've also stopped playing the Derby and am now contemplating the inevitable. …too much tweaking from SC, making it very difficult to obtain the things that would make this game enjoyable.

[shadyacre]

Indeed. Specialty townie tasks, especially, are about impossible to do as are, of course, help tasks…. I've also stopped playing the Derby and am now contemplating the inevitable. …too much tweaking from SC, making it very difficult to obtain the things that would make this game enjoyable.

i have to disagree adamantly that the help tasks are 'about impossible' to do. in my opinion they are the easiest tasks of all, for anybody, and although i am in a larger hood, i very very often complete the entire task from the paper. i am often finished or have single digits left even after asking 'any revives?'. i would say on average you can complete a full 320 point help task in less than 30 minutes (sometimes faster) from the paper alone. add in in-game friends or those you are following and it's even easier.

the specialty town tasks are difficult for anybody, even in larger hoods. that's why i choose to not do them.

on the whole i think playing solo or in a small hood would be a lot easier than the large neighborhood i manage. it is a lot of work, and a lot of saving revives or mine tools and stacking the board for those which inevitably come up short in the last hours - if they even show up to do them. that is my opinion.

[JessOfTheDerbyvilles]

i have to disagree adamantly that the help tasks are 'about impossible' to do. in my opinion they are the easiest tasks of all, for anybody, and although i am in a larger hood, i very very often complete the entire task from the paper. i am often finished or have single digits left even after asking 'any revives?'. i would say on average you can complete a full 320 point help task in less than 30 minutes (sometimes faster) from the paper alone. add in in-game friends or those you are following and it's even easier.

the specialty town tasks are difficult for anybody, even in larger hoods. that's why i choose to not do them.

on the whole i think playing solo or in a small hood would be a lot easier than the large neighborhood i manage. it is a lot of work, and a lot of saving revives or mine tools and stacking the board for those which inevitably come up short in the last hours - if they even show up to do them. that is my opinion.

Shadyacre… I, too, have always used the DD exclusively for the help task, even when I played in a large hood. I was just making a point. I know that many players in large hoods ask their hoodies for help; solo players don't have that luxury.… we do everything by ourselves. I can't help but wonder, though, why you are so concerned about who works the hardest. Why?

[Momscar]

I'd say that after 12 pages of discussion on the "equal rights for Small Hoods" we can say that there are differences in playing solo to 3 and playing in a larger hood +4 and up to 30. Some tasks are equal in difficulty (really no one can help you gather bacon or wool) and some are easier if you have a larger pool of hoodies that can help you finish a task quickly.

I really hope that SC realizes that those in small hoods have their reasons for wanting that, as do those that are in large hoods. I'm not so sure that those that are 1 of 30 in a hood really find the social experience of the game any more that those of us that may have a hood of 1 or 2. Thru the friends book and Game Center friends I have found that many of these people are as important to my game as my hood mates.

One last plea from me: Please SC make the threshold prizes attainable to everyone that plays the derby!!

[shadyacre]

Shadyacre… I, too, have always used the DD exclusively for the help task, even when I played in a large hood. I was just making a point. I know that many players in large hoods ask their hoodies for help; solo players don't have that luxury.… we do everything by ourselves. I can't help but wonder, though, why you are so concerned about who works the hardest. Why?

i'm not 'SO concerned'. for the most part, i couldn't care less.

the only other time i posted in this thread was when someone proposed that derby matching should be based on the people opted in. i pointed out that it was.

i responded to your comment, because i adamantly disagree with your statement that certain tasks 'are about impossible to do as are, of course, help tasks' - that in particular made no sense to me.

i took the liberty to add the last bit in response to the original topic, which i realize you started. conversation ensued, and i think i'm warranted to register my own sentiment (though i actually considered deleting it so as to not have a conversation like this), that i do believe it is harder to manage a big hood. this is in response to 13 pages of comments, so that's what i have to say.

[daz258]

This has been a solid topic, so thanks for kicking it off Jess; also fantastic to see Frisco acknowledge it and open the possibility of change.

From the 12 pages of discussion thus far I think pretty much all of us agree there are no doubt differences in a playing solo, small, medium or large derby hood. While don't always necessarily agree larger is harder. Personally I believe it is but I've debated my point there throughout the topic.

What I will come back to though is, Equal Rights for Small Hoods; which in principle requests an equal opportunity to win the same prizes as larger hoods.

And, I agree. Everyone, no matter what size should be able to reach every horseshoe.

While the game should somewhat maintain it's existing system of making it easier to get horsehoes are the hoods get bigger, due to the extra teamwork required and the extra challenges of sharing the same task board with many more players.

This is the games current system.

No. of members

	Flag #1 +50 every level	Flag #2 +150 every level	Flag #3 +250 every level	Flag #4 +350 every level	Flag #5 +450 every level	Flag #6 +650 every level	Flag #7 +800 every level	Flag #8 +950 every level	Flag #9 +1,000 every level
1	350	650	1,050	1,950	3,650	4,650	5,800	6,950	8,000
2	400	800	1,300	2,300	4,100	5,300	6,600	7,900	9,000
3	450	950	1,550	2,650	4,550	5,950	7,400	8,850	10,000
4	500	1,100	1,800	3,000	5,000	6,600	8,200	9,800	11,000
5	550	1,250	2,050	3,350	5,450	7,250	9,000	10,750	12,000
6	600	1,400	2,300	3,700	5,900	7,900	9,800	11,700	13,000
7	650	1,550	2,550	4,050	6,350	8,550	10,600	12,650	14,000
8	700	1,700	2,800	4,400	6,800	9,200	11,400	13,600	15,000
9	750	1,850	3,050	4,750	7,250	9,850	12,200	14,550	16,000
10	800	2,000	3,300	5,100	7,700	10,500	13,000	15,500	17,000
11	850	2,150	3,550	5,450	8,150	11,150	13,800	16,450	18,000
12	900	2,300	3,800	5,800	8,600	11,800	14,600	17,400	19,000
13	950	2,450	4,050	6,150	9,050	12,450	15,400	18,350	20,000
14	1,000	2,600	4,300	6,500	9,500	13,100	16,200	19,300	21,000
15	1,050	2,750	4,550	6,850	9,950	13,750	17,000	20,250	22,000
16	1,100	2,900	4,800	7,200	10,400	14,400	17,800	21,200	23,000
17	1,150	3,050	5,050	7,550	10,850	15,050	18,600	22,150	24,000
18	1,200	3,200	5,300	7,900	11,300	15,700	19,400	23,100	25,000
19	1,250	3,350	5,550	8,250	11,750	16,350	20,200	24,050	26,000
20	1,300	3,500	5,800	8,600	12,200	17,000	21,000	25,000	27,000
21	1,350	3,650	6,050	8,950	12,650	17,650	21,800	25,950	28,000
22	1,400	3,800	6,300	9,300	13,100	18,300	22,600	26,900	29,000
23	1,450	3,950	6,550	9,650	13,550	18,950	23,400	27,850	30,000
24	1,500	4,100	6,800	10,000	14,000	19,600	24,200	28,800	31,000
25	1,550	4,250	7,050	10,350	14,450	20,250	25,000	29,750	32,000
26	1,600	4,400	7,300	10,700	14,900	20,900	25,800	30,700	33,000
27	1,650	4,550	7,550	11,050	15,350	21,550	26,600	31,650	34,000
28	1,700	4,700	7,800	11,400	15,800	22,200	27,400	32,600	35,000
29	1,750	4,850	8,050	11,750	16,250	22,850	28,200	33,550	36,000
30	1,800	5,000	8,300	12,100	16,700	23,500	29,000	34,500	37,000

While it should be more like the following.

No. Mbrs	Flag #1	Flag #2	Flag #3	Flag #4	Flag #5	Flag #6	Flag #7	Flag #8	Flag #9 +1,170 every level
	+50 every level	+150 every level	+250 every level	360+ every level	510+ every level	730+ every level	910+ every level	1090+ every level
1	340	785	1,205	1,600	1,970	2,315	2,635	2,930	3,200
2	390	935	1,455	1,960	2,480	3,045	3,545	4,020	4,370
3	440	1,085	1,705	2,320	2,990	3,775	4,455	5,110	5,540
4	490	1,235	1,955	2,680	3,500	4,505	5,365	6,200	6,710
5	540	1,385	2,205	3,040	4,010	5,235	6,275	7,290	7,880
6	590	1,535	2,455	3,400	4,520	5,965	7,185	8,380	9,050
7	640	1,685	2,705	3,760	5,030	6,695	8,095	9,470	10,220
8	690	1,835	2,955	4,120	5,540	7,425	9,005	10,560	11,390
9	740	1,985	3,205	4,480	6,050	8,155	9,915	11,650	12,560
10	790	2,135	3,455	4,840	6,560	8,885	10,825	12,740	13,730
11	840	2,285	3,705	5,200	7,070	9,615	11,735	13,830	14,900
12	890	2,435	3,955	5,560	7,580	10,345	12,645	14,920	16,070
13	940	2,585	4,205	5,920	8,090	11,075	13,555	16,010	17,240
14	990	2,735	4,455	6,280	8,600	11,805	14,465	17,100	18,410
15	1,040	2,885	4,705	6,640	9,110	12,535	15,375	18,190	19,580
16	1,090	3,035	4,955	7,000	9,620	13,265	16,285	19,280	20,750
17	1,140	3,185	5,205	7,360	10,130	13,995	17,195	20,370	21,920
18	1,190	3,335	5,455	7,720	10,640	14,725	18,105	21,460	23,090
19	1,240	3,485	5,705	8,080	11,150	15,455	19,015	22,550	24,260
20	1,290	3,635	5,955	8,440	11,660	16,185	19,925	23,640	25,430
21	1,340	3,785	6,205	8,800	12,170	16,915	20,835	24,730	26,600
22	1,390	3,935	6,455	9,160	12,680	17,645	21,745	25,820	27,770
23	1,440	4,085	6,705	9,520	13,190	18,375	22,655	26,910	28,940
24	1,490	4,235	6,955	9,880	13,700	19,105	23,565	28,000	30,110
25	1,540	4,385	7,205	10,240	14,210	19,835	24,475	29,090	31,280
26	1,590	4,535	7,455	10,600	14,720	20,565	25,385	30,180	32,450
27	1,640	4,685	7,705	10,960	15,230	21,295	26,295	31,270	33,620
28	1,690	4,835	7,955	11,320	15,740	22,025	27,205	32,360	34,790
29	1,740	4,985	8,205	11,680	16,250	22,755	28,115	33,450	35,960
30	1,790	5,135	8,455	12,040	16,760	23,485	29,025	34,540	37,130

Essentially having a lower starting point, with a higher increase based on numbers. Still more relaxed to get all horseshoes with more members; but takes away the impossible nature that currently exists for smaller hoods.

[WussyPuss]

Great work, Daz!

[SmallChange]

*Daz*

i admire your effort, but not your result I'm afraid.


As a solo player I'd HAVE to buy the 10th task & do all 10 tasks at 320 to get 9 Horseshoe prizes


In a 2 hood I could do 9 of 242 to get 9 Horseshoe prizes (or 7 tasks of 320)

In a 6 hood I could do 9 of 167 to get 9 Horseshoe prizes (or 5 tasks at 320)

In a 20 hood I could do 9 of 141 to get 9 Horseshoe prizes (or 4 tasks at 320)

In a 30 hood I could do 9 of 137 to get 9 Horseshoe prizes (or 4 tasks at 320)


That doesn't even approach being reasonable.



I've read all your posts and we still disagree about harder/easier to win, but that's not the issue here. Getting enough points to get all of the Horseshoes is.

I know you don't, because you've said you don't, but it feels like you think solo players should be punished. Why does it have to be so hard for solo players to get Deco?

I want to play *Hay Day* solo, I don't want to be in an NH with others, for personal reasons. I want to play the Derby & I want to have a fair crack at getting some Deco. Pixelated Deco - not shares in an investment bank. Me getting Deco does not take away from anyone else.


Some players doing 9x 137 tasks and others doing 10x 320 tasks to get the same Deco?!

[SmallChange]

Another blow to small NH's. A puzzle piece in a column we can't reach. Despite doing 10x320 tasks.

[Momscar]

Another blow to small NH's. A puzzle piece in a column we can't reach. Despite doing 10x320 tasks.

Yep! Only 3 members in our hood, and only 2 playing, so we are in the same boat! Quite frustrating, as 13 of the 15 hoods in the race seem to be doing all 320's, so to stay out of bottom 3 we need to spend the diamonds on the 10th task.

I really hope that this will get changed - and the sooner the better.