Welcome to the Builder Base!

[Infinitejake]

My point is that there are a lot more hard core players who are upset, but choose to remain quiet this time around. If supercell is running analytic, they should factor that in.

Let the guy express his opinion. The update obviously isn't up to expectations and he loved the game. People don't want to play a new game they want improvements on the game they already enjoy and invested their time in.

This..^ exactly.

[Superfinch30]

There are so many moving parts with this update and it's still so early on that I'm having a hard time understanding or accepting a lot of the feedback already in both directions.

In the past I've preached patience on the forums and more importantly within my own clan where I've spent countless hours teaching players, cultivating a social aspect, and running a successful clan in nearly every aspect I could have wanted. SC have done some unpopular things in the past that have definitely been for the better - removal of TH snipe, certain re-balancing updates, new loot system, new troop training system etc. For the most part, I believe the changes have all worked as intended and made them game better as a result.

I'm not going to condemn this update for all of these reasons, but I will go on record to say the following:

The Builder Village: In a vacuum, I don't have a problem with it. So far I've had fun. There are some great aspects to it.
- No engineering - forces players to upgrade everything per TH level
- Forces players to put effort into base design and adapt
- Makes a trophy system relevant and fun
- Should reduce or eliminate clouds
- The roll out plan has been user friendly, incrementally introducing features
I have some criticisms too, but they aren't huge and may be things that iron themselves out with time. For now, my focus will be to just have fun with it.

The problem is though, that the new builder village does not operate within a vacuum. As such, I feel a great concern that everything that made this game great over the years is seriously in jeopardy. There is simply so much unfinished work in the regular game / war world that I cannot believe this has been rolled out.

War is a train wreck right now. Every clan is engineered. About a year ago Billius made a great thread predicting this and it's coming true - https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...-and-Farm-Wars

Nobody can trophy push because of clouds.

The actual TH10 game play (for war), while better then it has been historically, is still mostly rubbish (won't speak for TH11).

Now we have a new game mode (or whatever you want to call it), and everyone who stood by all of these other items and worked for years to develop skills, bases, friends etc, are out in the rain wondering when SC is gonna hand us an umbrella. The new game mode addresses a lot of these issues which is great in terms of the new game mode - at the minimum it's an acknowledgement that these things are real issues - but that doesn't excuse the old game mode from being fixed.

Maybe they will fix it, but those are my concerns. I'll leave it at that.

Another excellent post (with views similar to mine ).

Make 1v1 work in main village. Just do it.

Or if there is absolutely no way it can possibly happen, if the logistics are just unreasonable, tell us now, and I can start slowly shopping for a new long term game.

[greens7777]

Gemmers has spent their money to build up their village. Non gemmers has spent hours of their life to build up village. They are slowly coming to max th11 and expect new features so they can go on with upgrades. But no, SC decides lets wipe everything and start all over again.

2 players uninstalled CoC today, it is next day after update. One of them was TH11.

Time and money spent in main village, everyone loves his/ her villaga and dont want to start from beginning. Why?

[Mysterie]

I'm so bored. There's nothing to do in my builders base but stare at it.

[Aderiler]

This update is a joke. A unfunny stupid fu*king joke on all levels. It's like spitting on my face.
Within one update from f2p game I love, it changed into the p2p or even p2w game which I hate from the very bottom of my heart.
Clash of Clans among all of SC games has the biggest income. Do you understand why is that? Because this game WAS fair. Now whether your th will be better or worse than others depends on how much gems you will spend on second village. Linking those two villages from perspective of the players has no sense. But from perspective of SC it has a lot of sense. The very reason they linked it it's because you can't ignore second village that way. If you could ignore it then you couldn't spend gems on it if you couldn't spend gems on it - no money for SC. That way they are literally trying to FORCE me to spend money on gems. If I won't do it then I will be worse than those who did.
I'm very close to max th9 so I have yet th10 and th11 to max. Or rather I should say I WANTED to max. I don't have any reason to play in it anymore. This cash grab update colides with my rule about not playing in p2p, p2w games.
But I especially feel sorry for maxed th11. They waited so long for something new to do in their MAIN villages to get this ♥♥♥♥ update. I can't even imagine their disappointment :/
This massive update circus thing was a huge letdown for me. SC while I highly doubt that I hope you will do something to fix it. If not then I simply won't come back to this game. I know you don't care about me but if many enough players will quit then you will be FORCED to do something just like you are trying to force me to buy gems
See ya.
http://i.imgur.com/zDjutLS.png

[Pluribus]

Another excellent post (with views similar to mine ).

Make 1v1 work in main village. Just do it.

Or if there is absolutely no way it can possibly happen, if the logistics are just unreasonable, tell us now, and I can start slowly shopping for a new long term game.

This is exactly the way I feel. Support has told me repeatedly that this is being worked on, but now after this update I'm doubting whether we will ever see the issues fixed.

[xc3ss1v30n3]

This update is a joke. A unfunny stupid fu*king joke on all levels. It's like spitting on my face.
Within one update from f2p game I love, it changed into the p2p or even p2w game which I hate from the very bottom of my heart.
Clash of Clans among all of SC games has the biggest income. Do you understand why is that? Because this game WAS fair. Now whether your th will be better or worse than others depends on how much gems you will spend on second village. Linking those two villages from perspective of the players has no sense. But from perspective of SC it has a lot of sense. The very reason they linked it it's because you can't ignore second village that way. If you could ignore it then you couldn't spend gems on it if you couldn't spend gems on it - no money for SC. That way they are literally trying to FORCE me to spend money on gems. If I won't do it then I will be worse than those who did.
I'm very close to max th9 so I have yet th10 and th11 to max. Or rather I should say I WANTED to max. I don't have any reason to play in it anymore. This cash grab update colides with my rule about not playing in p2p, p2w games.
But I especially feel sorry for maxed th11. They waited so long for something new to do in their MAIN villages to get this ♥♥♥♥ update. I can't even imagine their disappointment :/
This massive update circus thing was a huge letdown for me. SC while I highly doubt that I hope you will do something to fix it. If not then I simply won't come back to this game. I know you don't care about me but if many enough players will quit then you will be FORCED to do something just like you are trying to force me to buy gems
See ya.
http://i.imgur.com/zDjutLS.png

TBF... The villages are linked and I'm not spending gems on the second village AND I'm still playing both villages. Supercell isn't forcing you to do anything. Honestly, I'm getting along just fine in my second village because the people who have gemmed are not matched against me. Do I think the loot cap is amazingly stupid and greedy? Hell yes. Do I think SC will change it in some way? Maybe. Maybe not. Either way, I'll just grow slowly on that side while still doing war with a max base on the main side.

[greens7777]

So waited and hyped update, but no one is playing it because there is nothing to do in "big" update. No loot, no fun, nothing interesting. Who cares trophies. This game was about developing your village.

And you even cant choose with whom you want to battle. Random pvp??? ♥♥♥?? It is the same as attacking against bot.

[xc3ss1v30n3]

So waited and hyped update, but no one is playing it because there is nothing to do in "big" update. No loot, no fun, nothing interesting. Who cares trophies. This game was about developing your village.

Still is about developing your village. And, plenty of people are playing.

[DarthPat]

Being at BH2 and being matched against BH3s is ridiculous...
No way to win...

If we are forced to upgrade everything before moving to next BH, why in the world should we matchup against different BH levels?