#6ayMartians warring strategy revealed!

[WookieFloyd]

Aaa ic. Ok valid point. Not much I can say to dispute that pov. But keep in mind who r usually their opponents. Guess beating on weaker opponents can make them claim they r superior attackers/defenders eh? I stand corrected.

In their experience with the game they are the more skilled attackers and defenders, but I do agree with you that we are mostly in the dark as to the true quality of their opponents. I would venture to guess the quality of their opponents varies greatly having such an odd roster. I do think SC believes their game is great because everyone can have their own unique experience in this game. What you see as potentially cupcake matchups and potentially non competitive wars and you say if that was your experience you wouldn't enjoy it. However they clearly do enjoy it or they wouldn't keep doing it. See what you find fun in the game sounds different from what they find to be fun in the game. You find similar th v th attacks to be challenging and thats what drives the fun in the game for you. They find it fun to mess with base and roster composition and focus less on the attacking. They spend more of their time doing work before the war, while you spend most of your time planning attacks during the war.

[kimchilove]

In their experience with the game they are the more skilled attackers and defenders, but I do agree with you that we are mostly in the dark as to the true quality of their opponents. I would venture to guess the quality of their opponents varies greatly having such an odd roster. I do think SC believes their game is great because everyone can have their own unique experience in this game. What you see as potentially cupcake matchups and potentially non competitive wars and you say if that was your experience you wouldn't enjoy it. However they clearly do enjoy it or they wouldn't keep doing it. See what you find fun in the game sounds different from what they find to be fun in the game. You find similar th v th attacks to be challenging and thats what drives the fun in the game for you. They find it fun to mess with base and roster composition and focus less on the attacking. They spend more of their time doing work before the war, while you spend most of your time planning attacks during the war.

Truth to each is own but u really need to c some of the claims they make dude. Check insinuated n flat out said, if they wanted they can compete with cwl n that their strategy isnt that great. That they have max bases n know how to use it yet when a simpleton like me challenges them, they run? Im not even a cwl member. Just a regular clasher. I shudder to think what their idea of a challenging war is. Some claim its possible they r very skilled (check even said their number1 can compete better than any cwl member?lol i mean come on) I think otherwise n welcomed them to show me which they wont. Hmmmm. List goes on. Yadda yadda yadda

[SuperStorm103]

Truth to each is own but u really need to c some of the claims they make dude. Check insinuated n flat out said, if they wanted they can compete with cwl n that their strategy isnt that great. That they have max bases n know how to use it yet when a simpleton like me challenges them, they run? Im not even a cwl member. Just a regular clasher. I shudder to think what their idea of a challenging war is. Some claim its possible they r very skilled (check even said their number1 can compete better than any cwl member?lol i mean come on) I think otherwise n welcomed them to show me which they wont. Hmmmm. List goes on. Yadda yadda yadda

Dang looks like my previous post got lost in the previous page.

I also remember him saying that the CWL is rife with hoppy things with white fluffy tails. I'm sure there are some legit skilled attackers in the CWL. Anything the martians do I believe are within the TOS otherwise I don't think they would get much enjoyment out of it. And, Checks defense was that why would he bother with the CWL when they probably wouldn't attack their bases legitimately. Recently it seems he has a point!

Bottom line, I don't think comparing them to the CWL has any real weight.

[WookieFloyd]

This is a game and a closed system. Attack skills are just that your skill at attacking. To this day their attacking skills are unproven one way or the other. What is proven is their extreme engineering skills. No doubt there. Probably best in the business. I might even concede the point if you changed your statement to Game Skills. Attack skills are specific in nature.

While your view has some truth, it is not consistent. Outside of the war setting for example, If a maxed town hall 11 in a farming run crushes a town hall 5...100% 3 star! If he came here bragging about his attack skills, would you congratulate him on them or point out that there was nothing remarkable about his attack? According to you he would have the best attack skills because he dominated that th5. But we all know there was nothing praise worthy about that attack. And, would still have no clue if said player was a good attacker or a bad one unless he failed though. Then we would know he was a bad attacker. But who would come here bragging about an attack like that?

See your twisting my words as well. I never said they have the best attack skills. I have no way of knowing what their skills are. I said they have superior attack/defend skills to their opponents, what we know for sure about their opponents seems pretty murky. All we truly seem to know is that they probably face weaker competition in a lot of cases. The statement I bolded is not true and I didn't say they were the best in the game. Don't get me wrong I understand that there is an issue with quality of competition which is why my position is that attacking skills is subjective to ones own in game experience not specific. To them and their in game experience they do have good attacking skills because they always win. We have a clan mixed with maxers and engineers and those of us that are engineered are not typically feasting on much weaker prey. Granted I am sure we are not getting the advantages that these guys are. Our th9.11s are doing everything most typical max th11s do in war, they do dips when needed and attack th11s. Its not like we created an engineered th11 to overkill th9s.

[SuperStorm103]

See your twisting my words as well. I never said they have the best attack skills. I have no way of knowing what their skills are. I said they have superior attack/defend skills to their opponents, what we know for sure about their opponents seems pretty murky. All we truly seem to know is that they probably face weaker competition in a lot of cases. The statement I bolded is not true and I didn't say they were the best in the game. Don't get me wrong I understand that there is an issue with quality of competition which is why my position is that attacking skills is subjective to ones own in game experience not specific. To them and their in game experience they do have good attacking skills because they always win. We have a clan mixed with maxers and engineers and those of us that are engineered are not typically feasting on much weaker prey. Granted I am sure we are not getting the advantages that these guys are. Our th9.11s are doing everything most typical max th11s do in war, they do dips when needed and attack th11s. Its not like we created an engineered th11 to overkill th9s.

No you didn't but it's nice when you get do that right? Do you really need good attack skills as a th11 to triple a th9? No.

I'm not twisting your words mate. You cannot say they have good attack and defending skills with no evidence or that they are not the best and call them superior at the same time. The fact that they win wars is not compelling evidence of attack skills. What it means is that they have superior engineering skills! Best in the game. The jury is still out on their attack skills.

That th11 could be a good attacker, but we won't know for sure until we see how he does against an opposing town hall 11. Even a th 10 now days.

[WookieFloyd]

Truth to each is own but u really need to c some of the claims they make dude. Check insinuated n flat out said, if they wanted they can compete with cwl n that their strategy isnt that great. That they have max bases n know how to use it yet when a simpleton like me challenges them, they run? Im not even a cwl member. Just a regular clasher. I shudder to think what their idea of a challenging war is. Some claim its possible they r very skilled (check even said their number1 can compete better than any cwl member?lol i mean come on) I think otherwise n welcomed them to show me which they wont. Hmmmm. List goes on. Yadda yadda yadda

I have read many of the threads about the #6aymartians on here. In fact i just posted in my clans chat window how these are my favorite threads on the message boards to read. Very polarizing stuff. I will point out that i just like to stay neutral on the topic of engineering and I do love to play devils advocate. I don't agree or disagree with what the martians do and I think my favorite thing about COC is that everyone can have their own experience. I would venture to guess most of the players in this clan are very similar to SoD and that they have numerous accounts. I would venture to guess that between all their different bases, some of which I am sure are not currently residing in #6aymartians they would be able to put together a roster style similar to that of a CWL clan and therefore compete. I think when Check states that they can compete with a CWL clan he is being somewhat vague and trying to get you to believe that they would bring their engineered roster into a CWL match. However I don't believe that is what he means. Lets remember these guys are masters at roster engineering on a holistic level. I would have no doubts that they would be able to put together a roster that could compete in the CWL, it's just not the roster that they bring to their random wars.

[SuperStorm103]

I have read many of the threads about the #6aymartians on here. In fact i just posted in my clans chat window how these are my favorite threads on the message boards to read. Very polarizing stuff. I will point out that i just like to stay neutral on the topic of engineering and I do love to play devils advocate. I don't agree or disagree with what the martians do and I think my favorite thing about COC is that everyone can have their own experience. I would venture to guess most of the players in this clan are very similar to SoD and that they have numerous accounts. I would venture to guess that between all their different bases, some of which I am sure are not currently residing in #6aymartians they would be able to put together a roster style similar to that of a CWL clan and therefore compete. I think when Check states that they can compete with a CWL clan he is being somewhat vague and trying to get you to believe that they would bring their engineered roster into a CWL match. However I don't believe that is what he means. Lets remember these guys are masters at roster engineering on a holistic level. I would have no doubts that they would be able to put together a roster that could compete in the CWL, it's just not the roster that they bring to their random wars.

To add your post I think he also stated that what would the point of said match be when there are bunnies involved. It wouldn't prove anything. Because whats the point of trying to show case your base building skills when somebody can attack it 100 times before trying it live.

[WookieFloyd]

No you didn't but it's nice when you get do that right? Do you really need good attack skills as a th11 to triple a th9? No.

I'm not twisting your words mate. You cannot say they have good attack and defending skills with no evidence or that they are not the best and call them superior at the same time. The fact that they win wars is not compelling evidence of attack skills. What it means is that they have superior engineering skills! Best in the game. The jury is still out on their attack skills.

That th11 could be a good attacker, but we won't know for sure until we see how he does against an opposing town hall 11. Even a th 10 now days.

You can't say they don't have good skills without evidence either, the sword cuts both ways. Can you prove that all their attacks are th11s against th9s or that all of them are 2 th levels or lower dips? I don't know one way or the other but based on my experience engineering, it has never afforded me the ability to do anything more then a one th lower dip which is pretty standard in war regardless of engineering. But there I am trying to compare my in game experience to theirs which isn't really all that valid imo. I am only saying they are superior over their opponents not over everyone in the game. IMO, the fact that they have won soooo many wars in a row says that they have some players at the very least with some skills. I don't think I can believe in 300ish wars that the MM never once gave them an unfavorable matchup, and that of all the unfavorable matchups they have gotten that everyone of those clans decided to no show due to martian mind powers or whatever reason.

[SuperStorm103]

You can't say they don't have good skills without evidence either, the sword cuts both ways. Can you prove that all their attacks are th11s against th9s or that all of them are 2 th levels or lower dips? I don't know one way or the other but based on my experience engineering, it has never afforded me the ability to do anything more then a one th lower dip which is pretty standard in war regardless of engineering. But there I am trying to compare my in game experience to theirs which isn't really all that valid imo. I am only saying they are superior over their opponents not over everyone in the game. IMO, the fact that they have won soooo many wars in a row says that they have some players at the very least with some skills. I don't think I can believe in 300ish wars that the MM never once gave them an unfavorable matchup, and that of all the unfavorable matchups they have gotten that everyone of those clans decided to no show due to martian mind powers or whatever reason.

If you actually read my posts, they all say that nobody knows if they are good attackers are not. And, I said that "I cannot say if they are good or bad attackers it remains to be seen" I have no opinion on that subject.

What I have been trying to say is that a person cannot call them good attackers with no evidence just because they win. I have given several good examples of why that is so. Just take a second to read my posts and see if what you just said is correct.

Your posts state that you also believe that we the general public don't know their attack skills, but then follow it up with statements claiming they do have good skills.

At least we are getting somewhere. You left out attack skills . I'm fine with calling them "superior" as it is evident they are. And, that is proven by their win record.

[kimchilove]

I have read many of the threads about the #6aymartians on here. In fact i just posted in my clans chat window how these are my favorite threads on the message boards to read. Very polarizing stuff. I will point out that i just like to stay neutral on the topic of engineering and I do love to play devils advocate. I don't agree or disagree with what the martians do and I think my favorite thing about COC is that everyone can have their own experience. I would venture to guess most of the players in this clan are very similar to SoD and that they have numerous accounts. I would venture to guess that between all their different bases, some of which I am sure are not currently residing in #6aymartians they would be able to put together a roster style similar to that of a CWL clan and therefore compete. I think when Check states that they can compete with a CWL clan he is being somewhat vague and trying to get you to believe that they would bring their engineered roster into a CWL match. However I don't believe that is what he means. Lets remember these guys are masters at roster engineering on a holistic level. I would have no doubts that they would be able to put together a roster that could compete in the CWL, it's just not the roster that they bring to their random wars.

Say whattttttt. Lol to each is own. If thats what u believe good for u. I seriously doubt they can put together a roster that can compete with em even if it wasnt their engineer accts. If that was the case, check wouldn't b so afraid to take up my challenge would he? Im not even cwl. Is ok with me if he didnt use their engineer accts. Bring a maxed one than. Just verify it is one of their members who wars with martians on their "secondary" accts.