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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspex View Post
    Your proposed changes are game breaking and illegal in a large part of the world.

    You are doomed to forever be in a hell of your own making as you seem to have no capacity to comprehend what is said to you, instead choosing to insist that the world must change to suit you.
    I am a customer. As a customer I have certain expectations. As a person I have certain human rights and inalienable rights.
    Players who come to my clan and do not attack are considered stealing my time so if you steal my time, I should be allowed to spend your time.

    Whether you feel it is illegal or not, try suing someone in court over it. I'm sure they will laugh you right out of the courtroom.
    Last edited by Chuckt; April 14th, 2017 at 05:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspex View Post
    So showing for war is optional for your long term members? No wonder new members do the same or just leave when they see how the clan is (not) run.
    We have rules.
    We ban them for one war for every attack not fought.
    Some leave which is their choice.
    Some we boot depending on the cause.
    Rince, repeat.

    I'm sure I will have this problem with 90% of global users so I could in theory ban all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckt View Post
    I am a customer. As a customer I have certain expectations. As a person I have certain human rights and inalienable rights.
    Players who come to my clan and do not attack are considered stealing my time so if you steal my time, I should be allowed to spend your time.

    Whether you feel it is illegal or not, try suing someone in court over it. I'm sure they will laugh you right out of the courtroom.
    Lolololololol! DUDE!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckt View Post
    We have rules.
    We ban them for one war for every attack not fought.
    Some leave which is their choice.
    Some we boot depending on the cause.
    Rince, repeat.

    I'm sure I will have this problem with 90% of global users so I could in theory ban all of them.
    if you are recruiting from Global and your problem rate is only 90% thats actually pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somethingnotalreadypicked View Post
    Asking SC to completely change the game to suit you is not doing something about it. That's just lazy.

    There are literally hundreds of thousands of clans that don't have this problem. That should tell you that it's an internal clan problem and not one with the game.

    You have created this problem in the clan yourself and your lack of understanding that and you're lack of action (despite the countless post with good advice from clans that don't have your problem) prove that you are a poor leader.

    You want to know why you can't recruit and hold good players look no further than yourself
    Don't you mean "great" players?
    Players can be good and not show up for war.
    Name a hundred thousand clans that don't have this problem.
    And are you saying that there are 100,000 perfect clans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckt View Post
    Don't you mean "great" players?
    Players can be good and not show up for war.
    Name a hundred thousand clans that don't have this problem.
    And are you saying that there are 100,000 perfect clans?
    If you want to talk numbers we first need to know how many clans in COC overall but they dont give that out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckt View Post
    Don't you mean "great" players?
    Players can be good and not show up for war.
    Name a hundred thousand clans that don't have this problem.
    And are you saying that there are 100,000 perfect clans?
    Lol way to completely miss the point.

    The point was you are a bad leader and need to look inward to solve your problem and not out. But if you could do that you wouldn't be a bad leader

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckt View Post
    I am a customer. As a customer I have certain expectations. As a person I have certain human rights and inalienable rights.
    Players who come to my clan and do not attack are considered stealing my time so if you steal my time, I should be allowed to spend your time.

    Whether you feel it is illegal or not, try suing someone in court over it. I'm sure they will laugh you right out of the courtroom.
    You do not have the right to illegally access other people's accounts. That is not a human right and your conflating of the two shows that you understand neither human rights nor the law.

    As it is a criminal offence (S1, Computer Misuse Act, 1990 in the UK, CFAA for you as I suspect that you are from the US), suing would not be necessary as restitution would be part of the sentence. Prosecutions, far from being laughed out of court, have been successfully made under these instruments. That said, SC would never implement something that was illegal so the point is moot.

    If you wish for your time not be wasted by others then stop allowing them to waste it. As you have said that you choose not to do that all I can say is you made your bed, now lie in it.
    Last edited by Aspex; April 14th, 2017 at 06:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspex View Post
    You do not have the right to illegally access other people's accounts. That is not a human right and your conflating of the two shows that you understand neither human rights nor the law.

    As it is a criminal offence (S1, Computer Misuse Act, 1990 in the UK, CFAA for you as I suspect that you are from the US), suing would not be necessary as restitution would be part of the sentence. Prosecutions, far from being laughed out of court, have been successfully made under these instruments. That said, SC would never implement something that was illegal so the point is moot.

    If you wish for your time not be wasted by others then stop allowing them to waste it. As you have said that you choose not to do that all I can say is you made your bed, now lie in it.
    We're not accessing their account. We are accessing their base. There is a difference. In order for Clash of Clans to use their base on the internet, they have to be granted rights to it. Just like if it was illegal to access their base, their base should not be allowed to show up in my game.

    Second of all, the elixer collectors generate elixer for free. If theft was an issue then anyone battling in Clash of Clans would be guilty of a crime for stealing elixer. And since I can buy elixer and have it stolen because someone battles me, you can take them to court already if you wish. But since filing fees are greater than what some pay in a month, most player wouldn't file a court challenge and then they would be seen as arguing over a game when they wouldn't win because there is a law that "it is their mutual responsibility" which in this case is to play by the rules of the clan.
    Last edited by Chuckt; April 14th, 2017 at 06:18 PM.

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