Saw/axe drop ratio...is anyone else running low on saws?

[daz258]

I'm glad other people feel there's a saw shortage (a shawtage).

I do all the above balancing tricks usually, and usually have no problems.

But recently....


Shawtage.

Shawtage.

Shawtage...LOL.

Hopefully SuperCell have a look at the drop rates here, I do believe Saw drop rates have been unchanged for quite sometime; but demand has clearly increased.

December 2016 update: Banana Trees. 10 different trees in total.
June 2016 update: Peach & Orange Trees. 9 different trees in total.
Prior June 2016 update: 7 different trees in total.

From early June 2016 to the December 2016 update there are 43% more trees, Saw drop rates certainly don't appear to have increased by 43%.

Trade thread also recently reflects the...shawtage.

[Gymgirl4a]

Shawtage...LOL.

Hopefully SuperCell have a look at the drop rates here, I do believe Saw drop rates have been unchanged for quite sometime; but demand has clearly increased.

December 2016 update: Banana Trees. 10 different trees in total.
June 2016 update: Peach & Orange Trees. 9 different trees in total.
Prior June 2016 update: 7 different trees in total.

From early June 2016 to the December 2016 update there are 43% more trees, Saw drop rates certainly don't appear to have increased by 43%.

Trade thread also recently reflects the...shawtage.

And I suspect the next update will only make the 'shawtage' worse with land expansions.😱

[daz258]

And I suspect the next update will only make the 'shawtage' worse with land expansions.

That's true, as a majority of us like to clear the obstacles off the land when we acquire of it.

I forgot about that actually, been so long since I expanded land! Need to use some tools, mind you I'd rather use them for land than give them to Little Red Riding Hood, Tilly.

Even at double coins your not getting any, ever. I swear your grandmother must be a psycho, what can she possibly want with so many sharp objects and explosives anyway?

[MiniGardener]

I usually have plenty of both saws and axes since I serve a lot of town visitors and my pets are exceedingly generous. However, in deciding what to send Tom for with my free booster I noticed that I am down to about 10 saws--still plenty of axes. I haven't changed my harvesting habits. It occurs to me that we have gotten 3 new trees (oranges, peaches, bananas) requiring saws and still only have the two berry bushes and nectar bushes using axes.

Is anybody else out there finding a discrepancy? It may be that things change dramatically with the update. We'll see.

[surendrajaipur]

Everyone I know who is a high level player is low on saw and full of axes since the arrival of new trees.

[Kaptain Kat]

Uh Coffee bushes need axes too .
That said with the introduction of bees, nectar and honey products the pressure on axes took was increased with a bit which in turn caused SC to tweak the drop rate of axes slightly and since then it's been very manageable. I sell off axes regularly.

So now about saws and what this thread is actually about. I don't find myself short on saws (yet) I have had a steady supply so far even after the introduction of the 3 new trees. Sometimes I drop quite a bit when several tree types need sawing within a few days but since I then have 4 harvest cycles to go on them I'll recoup the saws by the time they need sawing again. I dont even choose saws for derby horseshoe prizes when there's a better option. I will choose them when the other 2 options are worse for me.
I must admit that in general I do seem to sell less saws then axes.

Now for something a tad controversial. Yes there were 3 new trees introduced but I really don't think that this should mean we should get 3x the amount of saws. Sure shortly after the introduction of the new trees we all planted a lot and harvested a lot to make all the new products and get up to a stock level we feel comfortable with. So yea we burned through a few trees doing that. which off course puts tremendous strain on our saws. After a while production of these new products slow as we find a new balance with these and all the existing products therefore the need for saws slows down slightly as well again. We saw the same thing when olive trees and the salads and sandwiches were introduced and it's the same again after the other fruit trees.

Another reason I said that with more products in the game the game has more options which products it asks for in trucks, boats and towns. For example when serving a townie who needs 2 orange juice instead of 2 cherry juice it makes very little difference on the saw needs. In total by serving X amount of townies you'd spend roughly the same amount of juice only is spread over more types of juices it can ask for.

So that's why I think we don't need 3x more saws even with 3 more tree types. I really think we'd be drowning in saws otherwise and all the other items would be harder to get as at the end of the day we get a certain amount of bonus items a day and increasing one means decreasing the other.

I think there's another thread on the saw subject just a few days old so I'll merge them if I find it

[MiniGardener]

Thanks for the merge, K. I missed the original thread.

I don't think we need 3x the current number of saws, just a slightly higher drop rate. However, as will all other management issues around the farm, I can make it work regardless!

[Kaptain Kat]

Thanks for the merge, K. I missed the original thread.

I don't think we need 3x the current number of saws, just a slightly higher drop rate. However, as will all other management issues around the farm, I can make it work regardless!

Not to worry! It's easily missed it had dropped to page 3 or 4 with the update stuff today and all. I just remember reading it a few days ago. Its just easier to watch the discussion when it's in one thread.

The 3x current number of saws kinda also refers to a post made previously on the matter which is now also in this merged thread. I also know you weren't suggesting that but I just used it to illustrate my example.

Anyways we will definitely watch the feedback and developments of it. Personally I do think by increasing the drop rate of saws we'd soon be drowning in saws much like I always have too many axes. And at the end of the day increasing the drop rates of saws and axes means something else has to drop less. I for one would rather get more BEM then saws because I could always hire Tom for a day to get a good amount of saws whereas I cannot send him for BEMs for example.

[daz258]

I always seem to get an equal supply of Saws & Axes too so perhaps that's why I also don't feel the pinch.

I've often traded Saws or gone crazy with Cocoas too just to get rid of surplus. I haven't used Tom to get Saws for over 6 months.

Tom however often needs to find me Rings & Mining Tools...I never have enough mining tools!

[Kaptain Kat]

I always seem to get an equal supply of Saws & Axes too so perhaps that's why I also don't feel the pinch.

I've often traded Saws or gone crazy with Cocoas too just to get rid of surplus. I haven't used Tom to get Saws for over 6 months.

Tom however often needs to find me Rings & Mining Tools...I never have enough mining tools!

In all the years I've been playing I never once have had to use Tom for saws, axes, mining tools or rings.
When I have a good supply of diamond rings I seem to manage to find them regularly in the DD for example.