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    Quote Originally Posted by Clark11308 View Post
    why can something be coded to instantly detect 3rd party apps and just log said player out.
    They instantly detect it but they don't ban it instantly. The collected data is reviewed by a human and is sent to machine learning engine(I don't know if they use this engine). Human review is required to eliminate any false positives. If multiple signatures are found to be different then it means app has been tampered with. That's why they ban in waves.

    People misunderstand it. They think ban waves are used to conceal the working of anti-tampering technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forever10 View Post
    They instantly detect it but they don't ban it instantly. The collected data is reviewed by a human and is sent to machine learning engine(I don't know if they use this engine). Human review is required to eliminate any false positives. If multiple signatures are found to be different then it means app has been tampered with. That's why they ban in waves.

    People misunderstand it. They think ban waves are used to conceal the working of anti-tampering technology.
    Well, I believe we don't know this 100%, but many do believe this? And right ok, hadn't heard it explained quite that way before, I got that it was to do with size of game files, but not the human review etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NGS8Blood View Post
    I got that it was to do with size of game files, but not the human review etc.
    Without the human review or with machine learning engine this process is impossible. Now a person from supercell can't sit everyday to review this collected data. They choose one day to review this data collected till now, eliminate false positives and trigger the ban on that day which you call it as ban wave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forever10 View Post
    Without the human review or with machine learning engine this process is impossible. Now a person from supercell can't sit everyday to review this collected data. They choose one day to review this data collected till now, eliminate false positives and trigger the ban on that day which you call it as ban wave.
    how do you know this?
    so it is harder to human review few flagged accounts a day than thousands in one day?


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    Quote Originally Posted by AresMars View Post
    how do you know this?
    so it is harder to human review few flagged accounts a day than thousands in one day?
    Maybe you're forgetting that SC employees have got lots of work to do.They don't have just COC, but the other games too, to look after. They just can't keep reading all the data everyday. I like the ban wave thing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XtremeGamer234 View Post
    Maybe you're forgetting that SC employees have got lots of work to do.They don't have just COC, but the other games too, to look after. They just can't keep reading all the data everyday. I like the ban wave thing more.
    not forgetting at all
    so you say that 1 day they just all unite and sit at a table all busy controlling and reviewing thousands of flagged accounts?


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    Quote Originally Posted by AresMars View Post
    not forgetting at all
    so you say that 1 day they just all unite and sit at a table all busy controlling and reviewing thousands of flagged accounts?
    Well, I can't make an exact guess here, but I think they just appoint a particular team to do this. Like, 6-8 persons or something. Those guys just view all the flagged accounts and go about banning them, while the rest continue their routine work.It's just my opinion tho.
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    Thats terrible reasoning. With all the money pumped into this game SC has a responsibility to keep it clean. Not enough employees? Hire more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by forever10 View Post
    Without the human review or with machine learning engine this process is impossible. Now a person from supercell can't sit everyday to review this collected data. They choose one day to review this data collected till now, eliminate false positives and trigger the ban on that day which you call it as ban wave.
    Right ok. Sounds good. Surely they could just add some kinda extra section to support to check over these constantly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NGS8Blood View Post
    Right ok. Sounds good. Surely they could just add some kinda extra section to support to check over these constantly?
    Thanks man!! This is the exact solution for the prob. Like, form a dedicated team for the sole purpose of banning the flagged accounts. Check them every four days. Prob solved!!

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