Possible solution to engineered bases

[TheSeachicken]

Why whinge for . I have a engineered th11 with max troops. It's up to me if I want to have defenses . All you guys crying about them I don't understand. Its up to the individual what they want . Just get over it I reckon .
Ive spent probably 3k au money on my little gem and it's a beauty. The hardest thing about it is logging on everyday and seeing 500k worth of loot and 5k de gone . You guys don't mind raiding engineered bases do you.

Why should we get over it? Why should we stand for you manipulating the system? Why should we stand for you garnering a huge attack advantage in war, while helping to simultaneously create a defensive advantage at the top of the war roster?

Why should people "just get over" unfair outcomes to their wars not based on skill? And we should we, or even you, not push for fairness where outcomes are predicated on skill - not clan composition?

I do mind raiding your defenseless base in single player when it means I won't get any war loot because you've decided to exploit the system. And you're rolling your max 11 troops over my clans top two max th9s with no skill whatsoever. And if you were't engineered, I'd hit "next" and get big loot on some abandoned base anyway. I'm not out anything in single player - out a lot in the war realm, which is where all the gravitas lie anyway.

[NeoGen]

Threads like this will continue to appear, as more and more people get annoyed, our last 2 wars were ridiculously mismatched due to engineering, the first saw us against 2 TH11 and 5 TH10 plus over 20 TH9’s all engineered against our 2 TH10’s and 14 TH9’s, needless to say we were crushed buy 100% the 11 was pretty well maxed to TH10 and all the 10’s had 3 Bows. all you engineerers out their you can try to justify your methods as much as you want but at the end of the day, you couldn’t win a fair fight if your life depended on it. To quote SCC on this subject: “This is against the spirit of the game and a cowards way for winning the game” I live in hope that SCC are as they say pulling all-nighters to solving this problem, but alas I think I may die in despair before anything is done. You cannot justify manipulating something to such a degree it gives you an unfair advantage.

[GenFgts]

Why should we get over it? Why should we stand for you manipulating the system? Why should we stand for you garnering a huge attack advantage in war, while helping to simultaneously create a defensive advantage at the top of the war roster?

Why should people "just get over" unfair outcomes to their wars not based on skill? And we should we, or even you, not push for fairness where outcomes are predicated on skill - not clan composition?

I do mind raiding your defenseless base in single player when it means I won't get any war loot because you've decided to exploit the system. And you're rolling your max 11 troops over my clans top two max th9s with no skill whatsoever. And if you were't engineered, I'd hit "next" and get big loot on some abandoned base anyway. I'm not out anything in single player - out a lot in the war realm, which is where all the gravitas lie anyway.

Calm down , I spend money like everyone else so why shouldn't I be able to do what I want . I don't want a crowded base that looks horrid . And max th9's , I hit max th10's +

[kevs926]

if adapting isnt your style, then quit.

dead maxxer bases stays in crystal. the more quitters, the more loot. There are so many maxxer base already, your best contribution would be a resource farm for others.

[nerfedname]

Calm down , I spend money like everyone else so why shouldn't I be able to do what I want . I don't want a crowded base that looks horrid . And max th9's , I hit max th10's +

First, how much money you did, or did not spend is entirely irrelevant.

Second, very few people are asking for prohibitions on how one can build their base (the poster you're responding to certainly is not). What people ARE asking for is alterations and changes to the war matchmaking algorithm to reduce or eliminate the undue advantage you currently receive for NOT building defenses in a "tower defense strategy" game. There is a decided difference. If you wanna have a maxed offense TH11 with but a single, lonely, lvl1 cannon, I do not care and do not wish to have SC enact any measures in the game that would prevent you from building such a base. You just shouldn't get any advantage in war for it...

if adapting isnt your style, then quit.

dead maxxer bases stays in crystal. the more quitters, the more loot. There are so many maxxer base already, your best contribution would be a resource farm for others.

No thanks, I have no intention of "adapting" and starting a 2nd account so that I can engineer it to mess with the matchmaker. SC has repeatedly made statements suggesting they are not particularly a fan of lopsided bases, and have on previous occasions shown they are willing to gore the ox of many players if something is happening in-game that is "not how the game was intended," so I'll just continue to offer ideas and lobby supercell to alter the matchmaking system to provide more equitable matchups. Ideas like my weight tax, as well as others.

They made strides at reining in some engineered bases in October, and I'm fully expecting that they'll continue to tinker with the matchmaking algorithm as time passes. And if the algorithm ever gets to the point that your little-to-no-defense account becomes a liability to your clan (as a base with no defenses should be in a "tower defense strategy game") I hope you take your own advice and adapt...

[TheSeachicken]

Calm down , I spend money like everyone else so why shouldn't I be able to do what I want . I don't want a crowded base that looks horrid . And max th9's , I hit max th10's +

Do what you want. Nobody, least of all me, is requesting you to change. I'm not here to stop you from playing how you want.

I'm here saying you should be matched up against opponents in war fairly that play like you - that results in skills based war outcomes - not an exploitation in an algorithm.

[TheSeachicken]

if adapting isnt your style, then quit.

dead maxxer bases stays in crystal. the more quitters, the more loot. There are so many maxxer base already, your best contribution would be a resource farm for others.

I don't understand the nature ofvthis attitude. If we don't like unfair matchups we should quit? If we don't want to adapt to a ridiculous structure to tip the odds we should quit? Where's the integrity and sportsmanship in such an attitude?

Everyone, regardless of their preferences, should desire fair war matchups.

[waxbaseee]

And you're rolling your max 11 troops over my clans top two max th9s with no skill whatsoever. .

you know how long it takes for a defless MAX 11?

[nerfedname]

you know how long it takes for a defless MAX 11?

to be fair, the guy he's replying to claims to have spent $3k Australian on his account, so likely not as long as one would think...

Why whinge for . I have a engineered th11 with max troops. It's up to me if I want to have defenses . All you guys crying about them I don't understand. Its up to the individual what they want . Just get over it I reckon .
Ive spent probably 3k au money on my little gem and it's a beauty. The hardest thing about it is logging on everyday and seeing 500k worth of loot and 5k de gone . You guys don't mind raiding engineered bases do you.

[MrJackrabbit]

Threads like this will continue to appear, as more and more people get annoyed, our last 2 wars were ridiculously mismatched due to engineering, the first saw us against 2 TH11 and 5 TH10 plus over 20 TH9’s all engineered against our 2 TH10’s and 14 TH9’s, needless to say we were crushed buy 100% the 11 was pretty well maxed to TH10 and all the 10’s had 3 Bows. all you engineerers out their you can try to justify your methods as much as you want but at the end of the day, you couldn’t win a fair fight if your life depended on it. To quote SCC on this subject: “This is against the spirit of the game and a cowards way for winning the game” I live in hope that SCC are as they say pulling all-nighters to solving this problem, but alas I think I may die in despair before anything is done. You cannot justify manipulating something to such a degree it gives you an unfair advantage.

Where did SC say it was a cowards way? I believe you are misquoting there. Also unless you have personal experience engineering you have no idea how SC has changed to make it much harder for them. The still have an advantage cause its off>def. And to clans that are def>off the is still a good advantage. Here's another idea. Stop blaming others for your misfortune and look and say gee maybe I should have few 3* war attacks before I max my defenses at this th. The my off will be greater than my defense. FYI anyone on the "wall hero" grind at th9/10 usually has their defenses maxed and therefor their def>off. That is most people's major problem right there and why those who skip that part are labeled as engineers and unfair.