The "Goblins" top 3 all have Eagle's and are upgraded - the top guy is nearly maxed. The fourth base is a 10.5 and then max 10s below him.Originally Posted by TheWarDictator
The "Goblins" top 3 all have Eagle's and are upgraded - the top guy is nearly maxed. The fourth base is a 10.5 and then max 10s below him.
... two things are infinite; the universe and stupidity on global... And I'm not entirely sure about the former.
Point me in the direction of that leak please
ROFL, it made me sick to my stomach too. Its actually the sole reason I created my forum account. I fully understand that there will be new players that just started the game, and that there are going to be low level players in many of the casual clans. I ALSO understand that sometimes, clan members opt out of war for many reasons, and filler accounts are needed to be added so that you do not have to sit a bunch of players to do a 10v10 versus a 20v20.
That being said though, most of us are fully aware that the reasons I listed above are most certainly NOT the norm, and are most certainly NOT the primary reason why a clan would have maxed or close to max th10/11s up top and non developed TH3s down at the bottom. Especially if there are multiple trash accounts sitting on the bottom of their war map.
Those accounts were created specifically for the purpose of gaming the match making system in order to lower the overall war weight of your clan in order to draw easier opponents that you can beat up on. That is a fact, and any justification otherwise is pure fiction being pushed upon all of us by players that are exploiting this match making vulnerability. So players like us have to either do it ourselves(which is what many of us do as the issue has not been addressed in over a year), or not participate in war.(not a viable option for myself and others in my clan).
Of course, then it ruins the fun of rushers, who probably make up like 20% of the CoC population... Wait til they all come complaining at the forums. But then again, I have a even worse idea. After the first war, it checks what lvl troops you are using for your previous war attacks. It keeps basically a log of your last 10 wars and depending on the level of your troops that you used, you get offensive weight. But then there could be more engineering, as in, half of wars, they use really bad troops, and on the other half, they use the most OP troops that could possibly exist. And by lvl of your troops, I mean fraction of max lvl. So if you have, idk, lvl 3 dragons in war, it is considered 1/2 weight because it is lvl 3/6. And lvl 2 witches would be 2/3 weight, etc. Well, I know that I had an even worse idea, but I definitely liked your second one
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Is it gaming the matchmaking system to add filler accounts to make a 10 man war or so as not to sit anybody out? No.
If you had to select filler accounts that will not attack, would you not prefer for them to have the lowest weight possible?
People are playing in their best interest according to the current system, as they do with any game. To claim they are gaming the system to gain an unfair advantage is not necessarily true, they could very well just be trying to minimize the disadvantage they get from having filler accounts.
I'm not saying the system isn't flawed, just that you can't brand everyone using low level fillers as trying to game the system. When you have 5 or more of these low level accounts, that is a different story.
I'm not talking about just any low level account. It's accounts made with the sole intention of gaming the system. In other words, accounts like I posted, with nothing unlocked other than barbarians. It practically carries no weight, which in turn lowers the overall weight of the entire clan. If you're worried about filling spots with less riskful accounts, why not go out on global and recruit the lowest player you see? To create an account used solely for and kept at such a low town hall with nothing unlocked is gaming the intended system.
Last edited by xXXCHRISXXx; January 6th, 2017 at 06:08 PM.
excellent observation and point. You hit the nail right on the head.
Are you kidding me? Fee free to pop over to my clan and look at the current war we have. It's pretty much the same every third war. In the event you can't, here are the relevant details.
25v war. 8 Th11s to 10 TH11s. 3-9 eagles. 16-28 infernos. Defensive overall weight of top 15- 1,270,000 to 1,424.000. Total GW attacks- 14 to 20.
And yes, the top 10 on both sides pretty much equal on offense troop level, and hero levels.
The only way this nonsense was viewed as an equal matchup, was due to the 7 TH3, 4s at the bottom of the map.
Not correct. The bottom 5 overall defensive weight is 223,000 to 21,000.
Last edited by cnaf; January 6th, 2017 at 06:25 PM.
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Yep...this is exactly why.
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I've been in this thread for a while now and the arguments against including TH3s really seem to strain credibility at this point. Many questions I have asked have, essentially, received crickets in reply.
Ultimately, I haven't read a single reason why it's bad to lower your clan weight via the inclusion of a "low" TH, like a TH3.
This thread has carried on upwards of 24-25 pages and many of the arguments just assume it's bad and haven't provided much logic/proof explaining why it is. It's a logical fallacy at this point.
Extending many of these arguments to their logical conclusion, it seems that the general sentiment is that if you don't bring your absolute best/highest TH, you're lowering your clan's overall weight and that's "gaming the system" & "unfair."
I don't think that argument holds much weight at all. The arguments against defenseless TH that could bully at/near the top of the war map held a lot more water than this current scorn held by many to those that lower clan weight by including low TH in their roster. What many seem to ignore is the very real drawback of including a, say, TH3s in your war roster
As explained above, you need to justify why including a TH3 that has only unlocked barbarians (in your example) is unfair and gaming the system.
I think there's a much more solid argument against lopsided bases than including low TH in war. I don't think it's reasonable to lump them together.
Insofar as including a low TH in war, like a TH3, I think this is a much better descriptor:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambit
Last edited by Lunaticfringe; January 6th, 2017 at 07:02 PM.
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