UniteD PH - 200 straight wins - congratulation!

[MossackFonseca]

Up until recently, th10 and th11 wars are dominated by modders. I see nothing impressive with that. My clan chose to stay in the th8/th9 range purposely to avoid those boring modders wars. I can't talk for UPH, but most of my clan mates have max th10/th11 main base, and they have no issue facing 'elite' clans with maxed th11.

The thing is, lots of keyboard warriors are discounting UPH effort/record without understanding what it's entails. Even Odessa Munich, (the hunter) claimed that UPH was unimpressive yet
-it only beat UPH by one star,
-it has 3 th10s, yet failed to 3 star UPH n1 base, which was only a mid th10,
-it even failed to destroy one UPH's th9 with one of its th10 attack...

The next time anyone accusing UPH of not being impressive, please invite me over to your clan so I can destroy your arguments like I did with Odessa Munich.

I am no fan boy of UPH, but I give credit where it is due. Frankly, as far I am concerned, there is only one clan that can really claim the UPH record is unimpressive...and I doubt many of you is part of that clan.

I love how you pump up UnitedPH, in a very fanboyish manner, across 300++ posts in 2 different threads, then claim that you're not a fanboy. Your behavior is exactly that of a fanboy, or perhaps of a promoter.

I bet you more than half the pages are people laughing and discrediting their streak, because of the matchups they pull. So it's not that intriguing on the positive side

I've spent most of the thread doing exactly that, and I think that your antics are very distracting. Keep your focus on the topic at hand, if you have a problem with a specific person and feel that he's harassing you then report him and let the mods sort it out.

[daddylindo]

DL i saw your war log. Nice log.

But I also see a lot of wars won by a fairly large margin. You claim that you get lots of competitive talented wars, yet over half of them you win by a somewhat large margin.

If you really want compettive wars, shouldnt you be alright with engineers providing the challenge? Seems like you face a lot of casual, high defense, rushed clans and sometimes the odd competitive hardcore war clan, and even less, an engineered one.

If you can believe me supreme, those percentages are all earned. We have a majority of th9's. We have 2 th11's, 1 th10, bunch of th9's and some 8's. We always clean the th9's with our th9's. Sometimes we have to clean a stingy th9 or two with our th10. So our destruction is earned. Which is why im very passionate against engineering. And we always face hard-nosed th9's. We dont face purple-walled, low level hero th9's.

[VeeBirds]

clans that wanna be the best

But we go into this again
What is "best"?
What is the best clan? The winner of CWL?
There's just too many factors and playstyles

[MossackFonseca]

If you can believe me supreme, those percentages are all earned. We have a majority of th9's. We have 2 th11's, 1 th10, bunch of th9's and some 8's. We always clean the th9's with our th9's. Sometimes we have to clean a stingy th9 or two with our th10. So our destruction is earned. Which is why im very passionate against engineering. And we always face hard-nosed th9's. We dont face purple-walled, low level hero th9's.

Always? Really? My clan wars are 80% th9/10, with the occasional 11 or a couple max 8's with 55k weight thrown in. We are typically able to clear all enemy th9's, or nearly all of them, with our th9's, it sounds like my clan has a pretty similar makeup to yours. Yet, it's a rare thing when we don't see some purple walls somewhere. Sometimes we'll even see somewhat rushed th11's with at least some purple walls, does that count?

Actually, we have a lot more th10's than you, total roster is something like 2 th11, 15 th 10, 25 th9, 4 th8 I think, with most wars 15 or 20 man depending upon who's got heroes upgrading.

[daddylindo]

But we go into this again
What is "best"?
What is the best clan? The winner of CWL?
There's just too many factors and playstyles

The best is some type of clan ladder. Which clan on AVERAGE, wars with the highest average weighted players. THey average out the weight of all the players they put in their wars. Then they factor in: Total destruction, stars, amount of wars and number of players in war. This would all have to factor in, with destruction and stars weighing the most perhaps. Then a leaderboard is set. So perhaps it could take a couple of months of wars to set a top 200 or so. Then from there, maybe it could be clan ladders. Where clan's can challenge other clans above them within a certain range, say 10 spots. The challenging clan sets their lineup, and then the higher clan selects players that fall within the range. If the lower clan wins, they jump up x amount of spots. If they lose, they fall down further. The clan that consistently stays on top of that leaderboard, will ultimately be a clan that wars with all th11's. And that gives players something to aim for. And each year the leaderboards reset. And the previous year's final standings stay posted the next year. You can also have town hall divisions. There are all th9 clans out there, give them a platform too... th10, etc. Make this game fun!!!

[daddylindo]

Always? Really? My clan wars are 80% th9/10, with the occasional 11 or a couple max 8's with 55k weight thrown in. We are typically able to clear all enemy th9's, or nearly all of them, with our th9's, it sounds like my clan has a pretty similar makeup to yours. Yet, it's a rare thing when we don't see some purple walls somewhere. Sometimes we'll even see somewhat rushed th11's with at least some purple walls, does that count?

Actually, we have a lot more th10's than you, total roster is something like 2 th11, 15 th 10, 25 th9, 4 th8 I think, with most wars 15 or 20 man depending upon who's got heroes upgrading.

Yeah we need th10's. We have two th9's that just jumped. I cant find anyone reliable in global. And i dont like strangers with such high responsibility. So unfortunately, we'll just have to wait until we have more 9's that jump. We only see purple walls at the very bottom of their th9 list, which they are irrelevant and 3 starred without question.

[SupremeCleave]

Yeah.. but the margin of which you win by suggests that the wars really aren't that competitive. Why is that?

[MossackFonseca]

Yeah we need th10's. We have two th9's that just jumped. I cant find anyone reliable in global. And i dont like strangers with such high responsibility. So unfortunately, we'll just have to wait until we have more 9's that jump. We only see purple walls at the very bottom of their th9 list, which they are irrelevant and 3 starred without question.

I was laughing at the purple walls comment earlier, we typically see anything from skulls to lavas on opponent 9's, but this war enemy's 2nd lowest 9 has mostly purple walls. They also outnumber us 2-1 in th11's, with same number of 10's. Of course, they also look to be proficient in gowipe, so I'm not too fearful of defeat at this point...

Jump to th10 has proven to be very tough for us, most of your best clashers spend months and months working on heroes, then they have to learn how to attack infernos properly...it's a whole nother level from th9. We're still winning most of our wars, but it's more like 75% instead of 90% now, and lots of ties broken on % and 1-2 star wins/losses too.

[JessieClashWarrior1985]

But we go into this again
What is "best"?
What is the best clan? The winner of CWL?
There's just too many factors and playstyles

I would say the best of the best are in the CWL. It's 100% fair play, even playing field and no way to manipulate the system. Only real difference may lie in a few TH9s having just 25/25 heroes vs 30/30, and that makes very little difference at TH9 these days...So yes, as of right now, CWL clans r among the best in the world. The best in the world don't manipulate the system to gain an edge. They fight against the best and look to earn the crown in the end. As anyone's philosophy may be..."If u want to be the best, u must beat the best."

[daddylindo]

Yeah.. but the margin of which you win by suggests that the wars really aren't that competitive. Why is that?

You must not be looking at enough war logs. First off, our destruction probably averages out to about 95%, which is the sign of a good clan. It's not littered with 99's and 100's which is the sign of an engineered clan and/or a clan full of th7's and 8's. Secondly, a bunch of our opponents have % in the 90's as well. The wars we lost, we were at a disadvantage town hall wise. The only war within the 2 months that we lost in which the war was dead evenly matched was 40 days ago to a greek clan. And we tipped our hats. We should've won, but with a disconnect at a crucial time and 99% on one of their th10's, we lost. But they still were a very good attacking clan that earned the win. But we usually are not advantaged. And thats one of the downsides of playing the game the way it was intended i guess....