Engineered clan again !!

[MrCreosote]

i am not questioning the existence of max offense th11s but in a clan of th10 and below i am.

ive never seen an engineered th11 with serious offensive capability in a th10 below war.

but when creo says something like hes pulling in 2 th11s coupled with engineered 10s and 11s not once, but several times, it raises an eyebrow

Not just us apparently given the numerous posts, but the unskilled attacking, whining,crybaby,unstrategic, non committed, lazy button pushers will have to adapt.

[TheFallenDragon]

Not just us apparently given the numerous posts, but the unskilled attacking, whining,crybaby,unstrategic, non committed, lazy button pushers will have to adapt.

max offense engineered th11s are very very very rare. like extremely rare. apart from the most engineered clans or higher level clans, (not th10 below wars), you will not run into an engineered th11 capable of 3 starring a max th11.

[Biz]

max offense engineered th11s are very very very rare. like extremely rare. apart from the most engineered clans or higher level clans, (not th10 below wars), you will not run into an engineered th11 capable of 3 starring a max th11.

They are engineered down low. Rushed th11's so they have maxed miners and bowlers. Look its not a terrible idea as you will get matched to a th09/10 with maxed troops. Easy 3's all day for those bases.
We see one at least once a week.
To say its not an issue is turning a blind eye to it.
How to fix it is a completely different topic.

[MrCreosote]

max offense engineered th11s are very very very rare. like extremely rare. apart from the most engineered clans or higher level clans, (not th10 below wars), you will not run into an engineered th11 capable of 3 starring a max th11.

Your missing the point, I have one 11 in my clan rarely in war. It doesn't have to be a max 11 just good enough as in there specific troop compliment. Throw a th minnow and that selective defensive 11,10,9 and it's game set match. Regardless we will keep on keeping on its our pork rind of addiction. Hopefully more feast than famine come update.

[Noctaire]

roster engineering is easily fixed. just make the top half or so be near perfectly matched

Good luck with that; I don't think it's realistic.

care to give us a snapshot of those th11s?

doubt you are facing th11s without having any th11s of yourself. even more doubtful on the engineered bases.

Actually...this does happen. It has not happened to my clan yet, but I've seen a few here on the groups where it did. There was one I checked into recently - all TH9 and lower, but sure enough, the opposing clan had a TH11 defenseless with just the right troops maxed.

There aren't many fully developed TH11 defenseless games with maxed offense and all, but it doesn't take much - just max bowlers, miners, and valks - to be an offensive powerhouse.

This made me LOL.
Its a exploit that SC never intended to have happen.
Clans that are exploiting this lack the skill to face a even match up.
Why do you think they do it? They need an advantage to win.
Most level 11 clans we face are engineered.

Not always. Most seem to lack the attacking skills required to truly take advantage of their engineered rosters, but they do draw more favorable matches. Every match we pull pull seems to be an engineered clan these days (typically 10v10 or 15v15) and these are lower to mid level clans.

[redgreen]

Doubt you'd be able to flatten the one we are currently up against. Top 5 are completely maxed TH11s. Then they are running a few defenseless TH11s that weigh 30k, with 40/40/20 and maxed offense. Sprinkle in a bunch of defenseless TH9s with maxed offense, a couple maxed TH10s and a couple of TH11s that are weighted in the 40's with max offense and heroes. Currently running a 23 win streak.

well i would like to see a detailed match composition....one guy in clan war section did that...and picture was clear and balanced either way...

anyway 23 WS is not that impressive actually...its very good but not that engineering has done it solo

We're not an engineered clan and we've flattened every engineered clan we've matched. I don't see a problem.

well this is my experience as well....we dont run .5s ... we run max th11s at top...try to beat those mr defenseless

[TheWarDictator]

well i would like to see a detailed match composition....one guy in clan war section did that...and picture was clear and balanced either way...

anyway 23 WS is not that impressive actually...its very good but not that engineering has done it solo



well this is my experience as well....we dont run .5s ... we run max th11s at top...try to beat those mr defenseless

An engineered clan won't get matched up to your clan with multiple maxed townhall 11s. If you don't understand this then you're arguing without knowing how things work.

[bryanw1995]

I disagree, there is a huge advantage if it's unbalanced and the "lopsided" clan knows how to attack, in my example above, we would have surely lost the war if they knew how to attack. Because we were definitely outgunned by a long ways, and if a "lopsided" player with his max troops ie: miners, cannot 3* a max TH9 well then imo he really needs to practice or take up a different game.

I saw a th11 get a 79% 2* vs a max th9 (missing a few lavas but otherwise completely max) the other day...wasn't even close, either.

[TheFallenDragon]

I saw a th11 get a 79% 2* vs a max th9 (missing a few lavas but otherwise completely max) the other day...wasn't even close, either.

this is just my experience but ive noticed that a lot of engineers arent too great at attacking. well, most of clash isnt great either, but id expect engineers to be better, but most arent.

that being said, i saw a stellar defenseless th11 with max offense the #1 Maxed th11 yesterday and a solid 2* hit on #2.

[bryanw1995]

Yes BW all our 10's are stout and 2 maxed 9's in lineup which is "heavy" perhaps but really drawing these 11's is an issue.

Your 10's are too heavy, you should either put in a few more 8's to balance out without making the mm go crazy, or get some of your max 10's to go to 11 (or 10.5 or whatever). Probably both.

Keep in mind that if you try to balance your top with a bunch of th3's on the bottom then you're still going to get crazy engineered matches pretty often. There's nothing screwy about having a roster like:

5 th 10, mostly but not all with infernos
5 th 9 mostly max, with maybe one or 2 8.5's in there
5 th 8 with nothing screwy about them, ie, real th8's, no .5's

but if you try to overbalance like this:

5 high th 10's all infernos
5 th 9's, mostly max or nearly max, no .5's even
1 th 8
1 th6
3 th 3

That would probably match you up with an engineered clan quite often, as your "lopsided" score for the overall clan check would be just as large, or nearly so, as an engineered clan with a bunch of low defense th11's hiding in the middle of war roster.