Worst War Matchup In History! .5 Gone Wild!

[bryanw1995]

This absolutely, rubbish th10s that are either too weak or too clueless to punch their weight in wars are a disaster for any clan... get rid of them

omg bases dont match each other. its a bad match and i will wholeheartedly agree.

take this advice... no rubbish th10s in war especially if they have sub par offense

We are 15-5 in our last 20 wars. The stock replies from pro .5 and engineers isn't working here.

JtB, I don't see them as having a pro .5 or engineering viewpoint, at least not specifically with these posts. I mean, yes, orangemojo engineers, but their advice here makes sense. For me, I wouldn't kick somebody out of clan for being unable to 3* his mirror, but I also wouldn't want to bring him into war with me. We have FC for a reason, get your new 10's doing a ton of FC in clan so that they improve their skills, that will make things go a whole lot smoother once war starts.

Maybe have tryouts for war, say you drop down to 15v15, with 3-4 th10, 7-9 th9 and 3-5 th8 spots only open. Then make people FC for those spots, or you as leader choose the people who get to war, with obviously people upgrading heroes left out. Enforce proper base designs, watch every attack in every war...you'll get a good feel really quickly as to who your good players are and who your casuals are who gemmed their way to th10. You might lose a few people if you do that, but your clan will really improve, as well. No need to run .5 or engineered strategy if you're full of really solid attackers. My clan runs into enemies that are various levels of engineered all the time, and we end up beating most of them.

[ILBigBuck]

We are 15-5 in our last 20 wars, with about 5 of those wins when we were heavily OUTMATCHED. There is a clan currently with a 25 war win streak, we were the last clan to beat them. And they had the advantage, they had several permanent .5 bases and we still won by 1 star. I don't "cry" every time there is a mismatch. The stock ad hominem attacks from the pro engineers and permanent .5 crowd don't hold water here. Matchmaking is seriously flawed, there is an epidemic of defenseless and permanent .5 bases in clan wars.

So still dodging us who personally want to see the match-up?

[KhalWarAngels]

If you don't like them then stay out of these types of threads.

Repoted for toxic behavior and blocked!

Thats fine, should I report you for reposting the same thread every single week?

[KhalWarAngels]

Thats fine, should I report you for reposting the same thread every single week?

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I count...8 cry threads in that pic, 7 of which are the same exact thing.

[ryryshouse]

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I count...8 cry threads in that pic, 7 of which are the same exact thing.

Lol.. as usual, no specifics either..... hero, troops, weights, etc

[ElectroWizzard]

We have town 9's from 9-15. They have town hall 9's from 9-16. The bottom bases match up, they are basically the same.

Our top town hall 9 has level 1 xbows with a war weight of 63,000. Their top town hall 9 has level 3 xbows and better defenses than our top 9.

So now we have the TH levels of Half of the map, and specific information on 4 of the 60 bases.

How can we even begin to asses the match with that kind of information?

One might infer that their no. 16 is an 8.5. How many of your 9-15 have dropped xbows? How many of theirs?


Here is what I've gathered about the match-up so far, but it is just a guess:

JtB's Clan - Enemy Clan
01.) TH10 82K TH11 approx. 105K weight
02.) TH10 TH10.5
03.) TH10 TH10.5
04.) TH10 TH10.5
05.) TH10 TH10.5
06.) TH10 TH10.5
07.) TH10 TH10.5
08.) TH10 TH10
09.) TH9 63K TH9 65-68k
10.) TH9 TH9
11.) TH9 TH9
12.) TH9 TH9
13.) TH9 TH9
14.) TH9 TH9
15.) TH9 TH9
16.) TH8 TH8.5 (just an assumption here)


JtB, do you see now why we are saying there is a lack of information?

If those 10.5's came from maxed TH10's everyone of them would have a higher weight than your No.1 and assuming that their troops are also up to that level, would make this the most egregious mismatch I have ever seen or seen reported.

[KhalWarAngels]

So now we have the TH levels of Half of the map, and specific information on 4 of the 60 bases.

How can we even begin to asses the match with that kind of information?

One might infer that their no. 16 is an 8.5. How many of your 9-15 have dropped xbows? How many of theirs?


Here is what I've gathered about the match-up so far, but it is just a guess:

JtB's Clan - Enemy Clan
01.) TH10 82K TH11 approx. 105K weight
02.) TH10 TH10.5
03.) TH10 TH10.5
04.) TH10 TH10.5
05.) TH10 TH10.5
06.) TH10 TH10.5
07.) TH10 TH10.5
08.) TH10 TH10
09.) TH9 63K TH9 65-68k
10.) TH9 TH9
11.) TH9 TH9
12.) TH9 TH9
13.) TH9 TH9
14.) TH9 TH9
15.) TH9 TH9
16.) TH8 TH8.5 (just an assumption here)


JtB, do you see now why we are saying there is a lack of information?

If those 10.5's came from maxed TH10's everyone of them would have a higher weight than your No.1 and assuming that their troops are also up to that level, would make this the most egregious mismatch I have ever seen or seen reported.

And this is why I'm not worried about being reported. It's been the same thread posted and reposted, and we are NEVER given any pertinent information.

[hammer]

Hi JtB, there's no question you have arrived at a bad matchup, but reading through all these posts, I'm not sure where the ".5" bases are.

You've stated their #1 is max defense - definitely not a .5.
You've stated their top 9 has lvl 3 xbows - definitely not a .5.
You've stated the bottom half of the map is "relatively the same" - are both sides full of .5's?

I totally get the issue of engineered/lopsided bases carrying a max TH11 offense, and a TH8 defense, but I'm not seeing that here as an issue - you've stated all their 11's have wardens, but haven't talked about specific king/queen levels or defensive levels for any of the 11's.

At this point, there hasn't been any example of a .5 base (that I can find, anyway).

My main question is this: "have you done the math for all bases on both sides to see if the overall war weight is even close?"

And again, I totally get that a .5 base will have a lower war weight than a base that has a more developed defense, but you still haven't mentioned anything about which bases on their side are .5's to back up your initial statement.

[Psideresider]

Here was our match a couple of wars ago. 15vs15

Us
1 th10
2-12-th9
13-15-th8

them
1-4 th11
5-6 th9
7 th11
8-th9
9-th10
10-12-th9
13-14 th8
15-th7

Now, to be fair none of the th11s had eagles, and only number 1 had infernos. However all the th11s had max Teslas, extra defenses, extra traps, 25 more walls and level 5+ warden on all, plus 5 spells and 240 troop spots. Some also had level 12-13 arch and cannon. I'm our 1 and got 70% 2 star on 1 and 3 stars on 2. So no problems for me. But our th9s had a heck of a time.

Having to to tackle the extra walls, traps, warden, max Teslas and higher arch/cannons proved difficult. Where as they got to hit our 9s with max troops, camps, five spells and warden with internal tomb. As you can imagine, it was like a knife through hot butter.

Saw an earlier post where where someone said clans that do this are smart. And they're not wrong. No way this clan could win with skill. 3 th11s hit my base and best attack was 58% 2 star. Yet I got 70% 2 on their one with a fresh hit. We lost 44-42. Still proud of our guys. Give us 2 warden attacks and we win. Yet we had zero to their 10. Not much you can do.

I don't mind .5s, smart to upgrade offense before you lay down those heavy defenses. But trying to stay at a weight to match th9s so you can pummel them is a bit much imo. Some people just have to win I guess.


tl;dr-you didn't miss much I assure you

[ren33]

So
now we have the TH levels of Half of the map, and specific information on 4 of the 60 bases.

How can we even begin to asses the match with that kind of information?

One might infer that their no. 16 is an 8.5. How many of your 9-15 have dropped xbows? How many of theirs?


Here is what I've gathered about the match-up so far, but it is just a guess:

JtB's Clan - Enemy Clan
01.) TH10 82K TH11 approx. 105K weight
02.) TH10 TH10.5
03.) TH10 TH10.5
04.) TH10 TH10.5
05.) TH10 TH10.5
06.) TH10 TH10.5
07.) TH10 TH10.5
08.) TH10 TH10
09.) TH9 63K TH9 65-68k
10.) TH9 TH9
11.) TH9 TH9
12.) TH9 TH9
13.) TH9 TH9
14.) TH9 TH9
15.) TH9 TH9
16.) TH8 TH8.5 (just an assumption here)


JtB, do you see now why we are saying there is a lack of information?

If those 10.5's came from maxed TH10's everyone of them would have a higher weight than your No.1 and assuming that their troops are also up to that level, would make this the most egregious mismatch I have ever seen or seen reported.

No wall info ? ...