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    @Mico11813 : is not my problem how many times you hit that next button, nor yours for that matter, it's Supercell's fault cos of the skewed, like you said, matchmaking.

    @mayhem2 and @Mico11813: Go away Internet trolls! Shoo! Shoo!

    @Polaris : If i would get some army to attack on my TH 11 I would mostly see other TH 11's, even if I drop to like Crystal 3 from Champions 2. I never been given the chance to hit someone for 58 cups as you are saying, most likely cos of the "Asian server" problem I mentioned above. if you are in US you get people from the same region as you so chances for you could find something like that are a lot higher than mine hitting next at the same time with players from the other 2/3 of the world at the same time.

    @ProfChaos : Why should I put myself in the pusher shoes when nobody bothers to try mine for a second? if you have the time and dedication then fine by me, attack and get attacked by people in the same range as you, not get some special treatment just cos there aren't many people in the range you are in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cezarica View Post
    @cleggy : actually it dose. It helps you get a small amount of cups, recover some of the gold you spent nexting and sure helps getting stuff done cos of the league bonus. Don't tell me you would rather hit some stronger opponent with let's say for the sake of the argument 20-30% chance to get the 1 or 2 stars with a base 700 cups under you with chances to guarantee 3 stars cos it's a lot weaker (not my case).
    getting a small amount of cups does not help pushing.. Making 1-6 cups per raid and losing -12 is counterproductive if your busy and can't always be raiding.
    I would always rather hit a max th11 for max cups then a weak th10/11 700 cups lower then me.
    I havnt lost a raid for a few weeks, so id put my % chance of winning a bit higher than 20-30% :P
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    Expecting this to get closed sooner or later, because it will get nasty

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    If while in M3 you were presented with a decent loot offer from G1 would you attack it or hit next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnyxDS View Post
    OP - the other thread went downhill, and this one probably will as well, because you're not listening to a single thing anyone says...



    The fact is no-one agrees with you. Getting attacked by someone 1000 cups above you is a good result. You lose less than if you were attacked by someone at your own level.

    Last year, I was pushing as a TH9 and the system had occasional glitches then allowing someone 1500+ cups below me to attack me. That's a TH8 in masters attacking me in T2. Now that was potentially annoying: when the enemy gets a +59/-0 (yes I got zero trophies for winning the defence). But when someone 600 cups above me attacked (that was about the most possible at the time) - as far as I was concerned they could have the 3* for single-digit trophies and I'd be extremely grateful.
    Think we were doing that at the same time.....I was trying to do a Titans push right after Titans and legends came about with my 9 at the time and was during the snipe era.....my defenses generally ran either -1 from 1000 above or -19/-38 from 1000 below.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
    Quite honestly you are the only one I have ever seen really have this much of an issue with it....I've been attacked by 1200 trophy differentials and quite honestly it has never bothered me. When the matchmaking change first happened I had a th9 in champs 3 and basically past the first 10 nexts the trophy difference started climbing higher and higher. It's all dependent on how many like town halls there are within that range....however flawed just think if the reverted the matchmaking change, you'd get buried under a mound of max 10 or 11 bases every next like it used to be.
    Quote Originally Posted by ProfChaos View Post
    OP try to consider things from the attackers POV.

    Long time searching, lots of clouds, lower cups won etc etc.

    Also lets not forget that the opposite of your scenario happens seemingly just as often. A M1 player finds a high Champ 1 or 2 player and takes 58 or so cups. I find this a much more egregious error.

    So please stop the crying.

    And for what it's worth your rant about BrExit and Asains sounds racist, even when not in context. You should probably drop that bit all together.
    Quote Originally Posted by OnyxDS View Post
    OP - the other thread went downhill, and this one probably will as well, because you're not listening to a single thing anyone says...



    The fact is no-one agrees with you. Getting attacked by someone 1000 cups above you is a good result. You lose less than if you were attacked by someone at your own level.

    Last year, I was pushing as a TH9 and the system had occasional glitches then allowing someone 1500+ cups below me to attack me. That's a TH8 in masters attacking me in T2. Now that was potentially annoying: when the enemy gets a +59/-0 (yes I got zero trophies for winning the defence). But when someone 600 cups above me attacked (that was about the most possible at the time) - as far as I was concerned they could have the 3* for single-digit trophies and I'd be extremely grateful.

    PS - you seem to disagree with Holps' actions:

    You were rude, aggressive and confrontational throughout that thread. I was genuinely surprised not to see "Banned" beside your name. You might want to read it back when you've calmed down.
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    Hmmm... I wouldn't call getting offered 700 trophy below your league as an advantage. Infact, it's a disadvantage.
    You got offered small cups, with a risk of big cup lost if the raid fail.
    I got +34, +32, +34 defenses win in a row from 3 legend players that failed against my base. I don't think they prefer getting offered my base..
    It's the same with me, I pray to coc god every time i'm in the cloud to get offered legend players far above my cups. The coc god only gave me one 56 cups offer during the whole push.
    When i got matched way below my league with 6 cups offer after waiting in the cloud for so long, i'm actually very annoyed and a bit angry.

    During a defense, i also pray to coc god to get attacked by legend players far above my cups. So i only lose small cups.
    I don't want people from far below my league or around my league to find me, because that means i can lose big cups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cezarica View Post
    @cleggy : not all players are in higher leagues cos they want to push, they sit there for farming the league bonus and that's not a surprise to anyone, let's just face the facts.

    @ElectroWizzard : Chances for what you are asking are in theory close to zero, but if you've been given then you are very lucky. I would attack anyone no matter the cups difference if there's something worth attacking. Hope this answers your question.
    Answers my question.

    Also means that you're stance is Hypocritical. Next enough, and eventually you will be presented with a match in G1, I promise.

    If it is unfair for someone in C2 to attack you in M3 due to the loot bonus they are awarded for a successful attack, then how is it not unfair for you in M3 to attack someone in G1? The only difference between the two scenarios is the amount of times the Next button was hit.

    Push to Champs, and I believe you will understand what the others here have been saying.
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    At a meager 4300 (ish) cups, I am seeing both sides of the issue. Virtually every single attack comes from 400+ cups higher and virtually every offer comes from 400+ cups lower. The latter means endless nexting just to find a potential target with sufficient loot to make attacking worthwhile. The revenge button (for hitting targets with good loot) is all but useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cezarica View Post
    In my last topic, that too ashamed to link to, things have gone downhill fast cos the said attack just happened (got hit by someone 704 cups above me, with me being in Master 2 and him in Champions 2) was the last drop in a series of attacks that filled the glass.

    Right of the start I want to be clear that I did not, nor ever will care about the amount of cups nor resources I lost or loose because I get it that is a game and the winning and loosing cups and resources is part of the process.

    What actually bothered me was the way the system favors the people in higher leagues by giving them offers up to 1000 cups below theirs. This and this alone is what bothered me. A couple of people that responded either mocked me by ignoring the above clear statement, and based on their comment something between the lines "you didn't loose much" or "it's just 4 cups, stop crying" and so on left me with the impression that they seem to have some sort of mental challenge, so asked them in a rough way if that's the case. After thinking about this, I realized that was a mistake to ask such a thing on a internet forum and should have considered it to be a case of trolling and not bother replying to any of them.

    In case someone missed it I will say it again: the problem (and what bothered me) is the fact that some players that happen to be in higher leagues (Champions 2 and above from what I saw from 2 accounts) get some preferential treatment just to deal with a problem Supercell should address in a different way, one that doesn't allow one player to go as much as 1000 cups below his cups cos he's in a range where offers are scarce, and another player that can't hit anything 200 cups above him cos the offers are many so the system would rather offer him something withing a 100-200 cups range up or down.

    I honestly don't have anything against anyone, but if you would imagine for a few minutes being in the same shoes as me and in your very rare times when you get the mood required to hit that attack button would see players mostly from the same region that also attack you don't tell me you won't get annoyed about this and start developing some sort of dislike towards them. Given enough time would reach a level of hate, but only in game.

    To add insult to the injury, most of the time they seem to be online 24/7 when you try to revenge, don't offer enough resources worth attacking when you hit next button, but when you are at the other end of the gun you sure offer good or at least decent amount of loot every single time thus making you worth attacking.

    Made a comment about this fact that even if I live in Europe I seem to be on the Asian server (or at least seems like it) and that I reached a level of disliking them with the sole reason being that I get to see and get attacked by players from this specific world region. Someone took things out of context and got offended by this and thus reported me to a moderator (Holps) that did the same thing considered my comment as racist and awarded me with a penalty point. Happy now?

    Folks in Great Britain voted to exit the European Union cos they got fed up with emigrants that do the crappy and bad paid jobs they can't be bothered doing or can't be bothered to get out of bed for, just like it happened and continues to happen in other countries like Italy, Spain, Germany and so on. Just don't go there and say that if I dislike some people from a very specific region in the word cos of the MM I'm racist, yet people in England that voted to leave EU aren't racist towards Polish people for instance!

    Edit: Fixed some typos.
    It doesn't favor us at all! Believe me I'd love to attack people close to me. Nobody was a 6 cup 3 star victory.

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