The Future: Game polarized into Engineered Wars and Farm Wars.

[JoseJones]

Nothing stopping you, but those timers sure do slow you down by 3 or so years.

Yeah the lab and hero timers slow you down, ie. OFFENCE is slow, defence is easy by comparison. Thats why engineers spend a ton of gems maxing offence.

[jgalt101]

Funny this post comes up again now. It's clear that SC has nerfed the 0.5s, especially 8.5, IMO. My 8.5 mini was matched up with a few th8s in wars before the last major update. Since then, nadda. Every war it has matched vs. bases with xbows, and the vast majority have pitted it against th9s w/ all L9 walls and L3 xbows, etc. This base sits in the bottom half of the war map, and we run another 8.5 and 1-2 9.5s (inc. my main) depending on the war. The 9.5s (which both have 70k war weight, equiv to max th9s) usually get matched to another 9.5 or a 10 w/ 1 inferno. But the 8.5s never get matched with 8s anymore. Likewise, our th8s never get matched to th8.5s. It seems more balanced.

When we meet clans that do more extreme engineering, like bases with low th9 weight but max th10 offense, it invariably seems to be that the player's attacking abilities are really poor. They needed to rush their TH because they really can't handle harder bases than their mirror often. Now there have been a couple times we ran into truly defenseless bases at the bottom, and those guys were skilled and a real nuisance in war. Still seems to be extremely rare; perhaps only clans that do a lot more engineering than 0.5's get matched up with one another.

[Billius]

Clan wars with only fully maxed th11s will be even offence/defence like you want, so there's nothing stopping you from joining a clan like that and playing the way you think it was designed.

That's the beautiful irony - I was in a TH11 clan like that when I wrote this post and I'm still in that clan - when I war I have the luxury of enjoying that competitive adrenaline you get when you face a tough warbase. I just did not want to see that type of war die away for mixed lower townhall clans, whether they are "hardcore" or "casual" in war.

This thread is six months old, surprised to see it pop up every 3 months.

A lot has changed since I wrote this and I can see some efforts to reinvigorate the fun of competitive wars. Although it takes many rules and the use of the new Friendly Wars feature to avoid the risk of engineered clan war matches, the CWL made me smile because it set out standards for just the type of competitive wars I most admire.

And from what everyone is saying, there has been some adjustment to the clan war matching algorithm too, although I don't play in a clan with fully-engineered or .5 bases.

As I said before, I have no bone to pick with engineered or .5 bases, they are leveraging smart strategy. I just hope that SuperCell continues to work towards clan war matching that leads to competitive, well-rounded wars.

CWL has shown us how much fun that can be.

Cheers

[Superfinch30]

Was always a nice thread, good to see it resurface. It is indeed rather comical to me, that many of the CWL and general popular YouTube war scenes fans also laugh in the face of the 'gowipe maxer noobs', failing to adjust to their superior strategy.

Just a casual flame-bait observation.

[CosmicCharlie]

Yeah the lab and hero timers slow you down, ie. OFFENCE is slow, defence is easy by comparison. Thats why engineers spend a ton of gems maxing offence.

A lot of the ones i see are obviously bots, with just drags maxed so they can faceroll th9s.

[kimchilove]

Im a maxer by nature bc im ocd as hell lol but now making a engineer acct just to experience it n c if my opinions bout r true (im thinking they.r but wanna verify) bc I c alot of, imo, silly comments that engineers n tinkering of war mm doesnt bring u easy wins. Unfortunately im only one in my clan who is willing to do this so I know I wont get full effect of engineer clans but im sure it will give me a inkling of idea to support my opinions.

[AFrostyBlaze]

glad the wars haven't devolved into either engineered or farm wars quite yet or maybe my clan is just lucky haha.

we do 40v40s and the majority are th9 weight or higher with a few th11 and some th10s. i would imagine that helps a lot in avoiding some of the engineers. maybe 1 or 2 defenseless accounts on the other side every other war but rarely are they anything that would affect the outcome of the war. that defenseless mid hero th10 isn't gonna dent our th11s or max 10s

[JFSoul]

glad the wars haven't devolved into either engineered or farm wars quite yet or maybe my clan is just lucky haha.

we do 40v40s and the majority are th9 weight or higher with a few th11 and some th10s. i would imagine that helps a lot in avoiding some of the engineers. maybe 1 or 2 defenseless accounts on the other side every other war but rarely are they anything that would affect the outcome of the war. that defenseless mid hero th10 isn't gonna dent our th11s or max 10s

I think the latest tweak did impact engineering, which is a good thing. Will be many months before the waves settle (assuming no further MM changes) to see the mid-term effect. I think roster engineering is gaining traction now.

[kamalktf62]

The op was right our clan is slowly converting to engineered one

[Funktastic]

Smart thread, SC need to read it.
I was wondering when the game will be again about skills and adrenaline instead of roster engineering. I don't like to play a battle that is already lost or won before it starts.