Cavebears

[Jorgbear]

Since ppl can ask for anything they want... I agree with all those above: keep the rule the same please. As far as stabilsing; Amen ! Thanks for laying things out Mike$... BTW, what IS for dinner ?? HAIL the BEAR EMPIRE !!

yes so the dilemma for tomorrow ....fluffy will be hungry ( tan keeps her that way!) but so will the volcano, geez how do we bears overcome this!! Oh I know we sacrifice a LOT!!!

[Kymarr]

HAIL!!!
Just wanted to pop in and let you know that I have posted on reddit advertising our empire. I've instructed applicants to read the rules, say "HAIL THOR!" in their request, and to mention reddit at some point in their initiation. We'll see how this works out...

[Cavebears]

BY THE GODS!

http://www.reddit.com/r/ClashOfClans...eeking_mature/

I hereby declare Kymarr to be entitled as "Kymarr the Red"

[Magnifico]

Kymarr, I have no idea what reddit is but if it helps with our recruitment I'm all for it. I take my hat off to you for setting it up HAIL KYMARR HAIL THOR!!!!

[Kymarr]

Kymarr, I have no idea what reddit is but if it helps with our recruitment I'm all for it. I take my hat off to you for setting it up HAIL KYMARR HAIL THOR!!!!

As far as information for clash of clans, reddit is really good. It is similar to this forum, but a little easier to navigate. It is a great tool for getting others to rate your base, finding information on updates, raiding/defense techniques etc. Check it out: http://www.reddit.com/r/clashofclans

Keep in mind, Clash of clans is only one very small part of reddit. There are thousands of other subreddits based on interest.

Another GREAT resource for CoC info is http://clashofclans.wikia.com/wiki/Clash_of_Clans_Wiki . This site gets Kymarr The Red's highest reccommendation.

HAIL!!!

[SteveG]

Looking for a new clan. Adult clan. I donate heavily, about 2,000 plus per week. Level 38 right now. Where is the best place to look on this site? Thanks all.

[Kymarr]

If any of you bears would like to register on reddit (it is quick/painless) you can "upvote" my post (as linked by mike$) which will increase our visibility.

[Tanys]

Looking for a new clan. Adult clan. I donate heavily, about 2,000 plus per week. Level 38 right now. Where is the best place to look on this site? Thanks all.

Hey Steve. Check out page one of this thread for our rules. Currently we are asking that you join Riverbears first. Type their name into the search engine and check out their page one as well.
Hope this helps you out.

HAIL.

[Phoenix27]

Personally, I almost always give archers and I always prefer to receive archers. The only players I will give barbs to are those who insist on donating them exclusively to me. Rarely, I will donate a lone barb to finish a donation when I am out of troops.

Stabilisation and consolidation.

The growth of Cavebears into three clans has brought about a number of advantages.

The flexibility for members to move from one sister clan to another, safe in the knowledge that the standards of mature behaviour inside the clans remain the same, that we maintain our Viking culture in all clans and that the general rules and decision making processes are also the same. With different donation requirements in the clans members can shift clans safely depending on their personal circumstances and changes in playing style. Members can safely "sleep" in Riverbears, therefore being inactive for periods of time when they would not be able to meet the donations standards of Cavebears. Cavebears with its higher donation standards ensures members are kept constantly topped up with troops, enabling them to level up and achieve their game goals rapidly, some more active members from Riverbears can take advantage of this by moving to Cavebears in order to progress more rapidly in game.

Members know that whatever clan they are in certain standards will be applied. For example we will not tolerate swearing or immature behaviour. We will not tolerate leeches. Players will be safe from being kicked just because their trophy count is too low (quite common in some clans). Players know we encourage a lively social chat. Members know we have fostered an environment of fast donations with higher level troops being freely given to lower levelled players in an atmosphere of friendship and helpfulness. In addition helpful and knowledgeable advice is freely given to the benfit of all.

Socially as well, the clans enable to meet new people and forge new friendships, although sister clans each has a slightly different atmosphere which is most probably caused by the make up of its members. Although not all members enjoy shifting around, some do enjoy the new interactions brought about by "visiting" one of our sister clans.

However, the expansion of the clans has also brought about some problems.

In their attempts to help me establish the Icebears clan many elders from Riverbears and Cavebears have moved into Icebears for a period of time. Their help has been greatly appreciated and as a result Icebears has recruited some very high quality members, most of whom have now moved on into Cavebears and Riverbears, (as was the intention of Icebears as a feeder clan).

This has however resulted in the Cavebears and Riverbears being left "short staffed" on Elders, particularly the older ones who are the most familiar with our rules and culture. This has happened at the same time as newer recruits have been joining Riverbears and Cavebears, i.e exactly when those clans need the most experienced elders on hand to help screen and guide the new recruits into our rules and culture. As the famous KC99 so prophetically remarked, "Are we expanding too fast and what time is dinner?" Or maybe some words like that. I am sure dinner was mentioned at least once.

Secondly, the mechanics of using Icebears as a feeder clan has not worked as successfully as I had planned. In reflection establishing Icebears as a feeder clan was my mistake. Hindsight is a powerful ally, except it always turns up on the battlefield too late. How could Icebears develop a solid culture when the first thing that happened to good quality recruits was to shunt them off to another clan after a screening period? As the famous Karthi remarked "Culture is important, and what is for dessert?" Or words to that effect. I am pretty sure we had Chocolate creamed rice for dessert anyway. Icebears never developed a culture. And for myself and, I think, for the Elders, it was certainly less fun and more like hard work.

So I have decided to halt the advance of the Bear Empire for the meantime. We need to stablish and consolidate. Icebears is now on Ice. (lol). I will not be actively recruiting into that clan for a while. It will no longer act as a feeder clan. Icebears will not be disbanded, but it will remain essentially inactive for a while until we have things sorted out better at Riverbears and Cavebears.

What things need to be sorted?

Well first, one issue needs to faced. Attempts by a few members to run the clan by proxy. Lets be clear. If a member does not like the way the clans are run by the Guardians and Leaders then they can leave. They should not attempt to change our clans into their own version of what they think a clan should be by attempting to undermine the Guardians and Leaders. We have processes in our clans where change can be effected. Discussion in forum thread and community thread, proposals and votes. The rules of the clans were established to provide a democratic yet pragmatic means of allowing us to change and evolve. To have one or a few members attempt to hijack our clans for their own personal goals and views will not be tolerated. If anyone does not like our system, they are cordially invited to leave. If it becomes necessary, they will be invited to leave after their heads have been removed. We will, in that case, take their silence as consent.

Secondly, we need to address how the the new updates affects our donation rules. Already there is one discussion about changing the donation requirements in Cavebears to include wizards. This has not been resolved yet.

Thirdly, we need to address the whole concept of clan recruitment. Despite our best efforts good quality recruits still come almost painfully slowly. Leech, Matchstickx and others are exploring new ways of promoting our clans. I feel the magic they are working upon may prove more fruitful than endlessly promoting our forum threads

Fourthly, as has been suggested by Tanys, the importance of communication via an in-game messaging system, something that the legendary KC99 once suggested some while ago (and such was my noobishness I could not get it to work for me. He may also have suggested something about Panzers, invading, and Poland, but perhaps that was me).

Fifthly, the perfecting of our existing rules. There remains some work to be done in rewriting and clarifying our rules so that they can be easily understood and applied. For that purpose I wish to propose that this Cavebears thread be considered dead sometime in the near future. It may be locked at moderators request at my instigation. A new Cavebears thread can then be started and maintained by Jorg, uplifting parts of this old thread as copy pasta as she sees fit, and incorporating, editing and clarifying the new rules that have been added over time. This will give Jorg and Cavebear leadership much more control over the content, format and layout of the Cavebears recruitment thread.

These then are the issues I feel that the Bear Empire needs to get to grips with. Expansion of Icebears can wait until after these matters have been settled.

BY THE GODS!

HAIL!

HAIL THE GLORY THAT IS THE BEAR EMPIRE!

HAIL!

[Jorgbear]

It is sunday evening again, and what do we do on Sundays, YES that is correct we tear limbs from those not worthy and are fed to fluffy followed by the bits that aren't eaten thrown to the volcano to satisfy THOR and by the GODS Thor will be satisfied!!

So anyway the stats are 9:15pm Sunday evening UK time:

MsPlumr		1372
Azuhma		1205
DP		1193
Jorg		949
Tanys		925
KC99		812
mayana 70		766
O'Hammill		604
fidanzal		589
Optophobe		533
Kymarr		525
boomster9	New	486
ashleyped7	Icebears	484
Magnifico	Icebears	473
Deblet	Icebears	458
shawn		451
jinhua		440
Phoenix		431
squire		428
Andrew		390
bizron		374
koolprince14		374
Buttnutz		355
suneloon		351
Big Hunter		322
Spechi		307
angels4		302
jim107		280
Pitchbl4ck		277
Dayala		264
mjmalino		251
Megaaan		241
Mattluca		217
123bigboo		216
Rashid		196
CookleDo		195
Harper 69	New	178
Patti	New	168
matchstickx	Icebears	109
Yuta	New	71
Bob Fossil	Notified	66
Henry101	New	41

So that leaves us with:

Rashid		196
CookleDo		195
Harper 69	New	178
Patti	New	168
matchstickx	Icebears	109
Yuta	New	71
Bob Fossil	Notified	66
Henry101	New	41

Remove those that have notified and been at icebears:

Rashid		196
CookleDo		195
Harper 69	New	178
Patti	New	168

Yuta New 71
Henry101 New 41

and now normally we remove new joiners however all of these members have been in the clan long enough to have met the donation requirement or to have moved to riverbears. So the Guardian recommendation is:
that fluffy is fed the bottom five donators!!

CookleDo		195
Harper 69	New	178
Patti	New	168

Yuta New 71
Henry101 New 41