Cool down time needs to be extended. We need to encourage fair play in all clans. Cutting down on war hopping is a positive step.
Cool down time needs to be extended. We need to encourage fair play in all clans. Cutting down on war hopping is a positive step.
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In my clan we have a message "No clan hoppers, no random requests, invite only!"
And my clan is made up of people who know each other from real life.
But I do see how new clans NEED to accept a certain level of random players if they wish to grow and expand their clan member base.
What people may not realise is that this game is plagued with bots. Some bot users run whole clans, with their computer(s) set on a rotation, where they switch between and level up multiple clans at a time, while the owner is at work or sleeping. You may have encountered such bots in your wars. A way to spot them is that they may not make any attacks until the last few hours of the war, then they finish with 30 to 40 stars and win.
Another thing people may not realise is that a lot of these clans (bots as mentioned above) and otherwise "managed" clans often send a spy into the clan of their opponents at the start of war. So if you just started a war, then you get a random new member, you can be sure that they are a saboteur. Locking the clan and setting it to Invite Only, can prevent this from occurring. But if you let it happen then be sure you will likely lose the war, as they can see what troops have been donated on the prep map, so know which troops to attack you with. (Saboteurs often get left behind, if you add them to your next war then they will leave and cause you to lose the next war also).
Yes I totally agree that random clan hoppers should face some kind of penalty, as they stop the progression of clans, serve to cheat on clan wars, and generally cause disruption throughout the game.
But what would the penalty achieve, when half of the clan hoppers are people's extra accounts, which they only use to spy on opponents and to sabotage other clans? = Nothing, they would just create another clan and use that to spy on and sabotage your clan war with, while the penalty is active on their other account.
So affectively, the only thing you could do is BAN clan hoppers.
But then they would just create more accounts, and make the game appear to be more popular than it is.
While innocent people would end up being wrongly banned.
They need to improve the whole clan system, and sort out the in-clan ranks. For one thing, nobody should be able to promote someone up onto the same rank that they occupy. If people could not promote others up to an even rank, then people would not demand "Co-leader" rank, and clans would grow more easily, with people respecting the leaders. A lot of the younger players just hop between clans to try and find one where they will be granted a "Co-leader" rank. So an overall of the ranking system Would reduce the number of clan hoppers.
Last edited by ronjambo; May 3rd, 2016 at 08:56 AM.
Hoppers hopping cannot be conflated with fair play, they are 2 separate things.Originally Posted by 123eric
Ronjambo: I appreciate your input. I agree that their are clans that are on auto ( bots)and that is beyond our scope as players to deal with. I do believe SC are dealing with those guys.
War jumpers have been around a long time and I know this not the first thread or probably the last on this problem.
I leave it SC to chose a deterrent that will discourage war hoppers. There has been many (ideas)"suggested from this and other threads.
SC needs to,address the situation.
Wow, I would have such a huge penalty on my back because of leaving my own clan, that I lead, built, and created. Like wow, I leave during every war to go to my other clan or clan hop or just do something else.
I agree with OP. War hoppers should get a penality, like +1 day cooldown before next war. That kind of penality should be applied ONLY if said hopper leaves war without attacking (neither 1 attack) and never comes back before war expires. Should not apply to members being kicked.
You cannot use a Clan Treasury system in my opinion, because there are people doing both attacks early then leaving. They still deserve their bonus (if there is any).
Of course prevention is better, but I have experienced myself a clan member who wanted to be in war, had a green war badge, then left without attacking. Trust nobody? Then wjy bothering creating a clan?
There will always be hoppers, so let it be penalities.
When we talk about war hoppers , these are players who do not come back to the clan before the end of the war.! IF they leave and come back ( for whatever reason) , do two ,one or none attacks that's another situation .
Thanks for your suggestions
I know what you mean for war hopper, it's the same meaning that has for me. But previous answers let me think not evveryone understands.
A war hopper can ruin an otherwise great clan war.
We need a 48 hr. Cool down period , starting at the end of the clan war that was hopped .
That would at least slow them down
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