Solution for War Spies Problem

[Hdogger777]

why is it made so easy for those who don't care about sportsmanship?

exactly the point. too easy for people who are cheaters to gain an advantage over those who desire fair play and a challenging battle. the point of the game is to win with your skill in attacking and defending. not to see how fast you can take pictures of the enemy's traps.

[Nwkanimal]

In our clan we have a lot of paranoia about accepting new members during war. There is fear that a new joiner during war is a Spy for our war opponent. We usually have to set our clan to Closed status during war but we sometimes forget. Worse, sometimes an Elder will accept a new member during war, they stay about 5 minutes, then leave, and everybody is wondering if they took screen shots of every Warbase.

I thought of an easy solution for this issue. In addition to our existing roles of WAR PARTICIPANT, and WAR SPECTATOR, I propose a new role of WAR VISITOR. A person shall be assigned the WAR VISITOR role if they join a clan during Prep day or Battle day of war. The WAR VISITOR role shall not be able to see any traps, teslas, or hidden features of any warbase (same view the enemy team gets). The WAR VISITOR role shall not be able to see what the contents are of the War Clan Castles, nor shall they be able to see what is requested for donation to War Castles. Therefore the WAR VISITOR shall be able to gain NO additional information than what the enemy team in war already has, nullifying the issue of War Spies.

I like this idea. We do back to back wars making it nearly impossible to recruit new members. We resorted to screenshot ting the entire enemy clan as soon as the match is made or if its a tough war we accept and reject saying comeback at a certain time to be interviewed. Your idea would be highly useful for recruiting for back to back war clans.

[Kuris]

Supercell released News announcement today to Clash of Clans and Clash Royale about their commitment to fair play. It is simply not fair for someone to be able to come into the clan and take screen shots of the bases, and then know where all the traps and hidden features and Clan Castle contents are. That attacker gains an unfair advantage. Supercell surely does not want to encourage Spying as a valid tactic in the game. It is certainly cheating.

A true Warrior desires a fair and competitive battle where both sides are equally matched and neither has an unfair advantage. The true Warrior desires to fight and prove themselves on the battlefield and that is what we're all playing for. We want to recruit and we even want to be able to accept members from the opposite clan and be able to talk with them if we want, without fear they could gain an advantage.

People who reply and just say the point isn't valid, don't have anything to add here. Everywhere on the internet that you find someone with a problem, the first responder always tries to say, "that isn't a problem". Well, people have problems and by just minimizing a person's problems you become an irritant and you're in the way of progress. Think for a moment how much better our beloved Clash of Clans would be if we didn't have to live with this stupid "workaround" to "keep your clan closed". Supercell proved that they want fair play today with their message in your Inbox. End of story.

What message in my inbox?

also, it's not a 'workaround', there's no reason to discourage it, it's called Clash of Clans, clans clash, clans need info to clash.

Although your our solution seems good tbh. Definitely the best I've seen. But I despise the idea they you think they are a problem and playing unfairly. They are exploiting the game in any way, the are thinking creatively. It's most definitely NOT cheating.

exactly the point. too easy for people who are cheaters to gain an advantage over those who desire fair play and a challenging battle. the point of the game is to win with your skill in attacking and defending. not to see how fast you can take pictures of the enemy's traps.

Send a spy back = fairplay

[Hdogger777]

What message in my inbox?

Open Clash of Clans, click on Gear icon in bottom right. Turn to News tab. New message was sent to you today from Supercell. I link the message here for your convenience:

Message from Supercell about Fair Play

Clearly Supercell would prefer for some players to not gain an unfair advantage over others. Therefore I think given this message from them today, the issue of Spies is even more relevant.

[dorsan]

I like this idea. We do back to back wars making it nearly impossible to recruit new members. We resorted to screenshot ting the entire enemy clan as soon as the match is made or if its a tough war we accept and reject saying comeback at a certain time to be interviewed. Your idea would be highly useful for recruiting for back to back war clans.

Warning about the bolded part: You don't achieve anything using that! If a person gets into the clan and opens the war map, they can still look at bases after you kick them! It is enough for them to be in your clan for just 1 second to click the war map button!

I have personally tested this in game and it is true. Until you don't close the war map, you are free to do whatever you want after you get kicked!

But I despise the idea they you think they are a problem and playing unfairly. They are exploiting the game in any way, the are thinking creatively. It's most definitely NOT cheating.

Send a spy back = fairplay

I can't wrap my head around this. So you think if we'd have a game called war of cards (or clash of cards) then it would be ok to peek at other people's cards and the solution would be if that other person peeks at your cards as well. And what "creative" thought goes into doing something that I could be doing also if my moral compass would be damaged as well? They didn't invent anything or do anything that required any creative thought whatsoever. The clicked a button and then took screenshots. I can train my dog to do the same... "Creative thinking"... Seriously.. Just stop..

[Whatare]

I would not call spying cheating, because I do not believe anything you do inside a game can be cheating. But there is no doubt that spying is against the spirt of the game.

One of the mods that people are getting banned for right now does the exact same thing as spying.

if SC intended for spying to be part of the game, those mods would not be needed. One of the reasons given for not allowing clan members to have friendly matches against each other is to prevent players from replicating a opponents war base to practice on. Spying gives you the tools to do that.

Just as farming was deemed outside the spirt of the game and removed by SC, spying should be removed for the same reason.

[dorsan]

I would not call spying cheating, because I do not believe anything you do inside a game can be cheating.

I personally would call it cheating because it is exactly the same thing as peeking at the hand of the other player in a card game or having a 3rd person peek at their hand and then tell you what it is.

Things like this were considered cheating in card games, board games, in pretty much every game that I ever played. And that is why it is cheating in this game too.

[nico201214]

there are no dragons in real war

OH !!!! POOR BABY !!!!! Do you lose so many wars ???

[Whatare]

OH !!!! POOR BABY !!!!! Do you lose so many wars ???

Dorsan, you are right. Any action justified in this manner I would call cheating.

[SansTheSkeletonPlaysCLash]

In our clan we have a lot of paranoia about accepting new members during war. There is fear that a new joiner during war is a Spy for our war opponent. We usually have to set our clan to Closed status during war but we sometimes forget. Worse, sometimes an Elder will accept a new member during war, they stay about 5 minutes, then leave, and everybody is wondering if they took screen shots of every Warbase.

I thought of an easy solution for this issue. In addition to our existing roles of WAR PARTICIPANT, and WAR SPECTATOR, I propose a new role of WAR VISITOR. A person shall be assigned the WAR VISITOR role if they join a clan during Prep day or Battle day of war. The WAR VISITOR role shall not be able to see any traps, teslas, or hidden features of any warbase (same view the enemy team gets). The WAR VISITOR role shall not be able to see what the contents are of the War Clan Castles, nor shall they be able to see what is requested for donation to War Castles. Therefore the WAR VISITOR shall be able to gain NO additional information than what the enemy team in war already has, nullifying the issue of War Spies.

Edit: WAR VISITOR role shall be removed at the end of the war in which it was assigned, similar to WAR SPECTATOR role.

Just close the clan
LoL
And when the war is done, just open it again
It's very simple