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Thread: The best war strategy: Hogs! But not just any deployment style

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHANDRIANO View Post
    But if you are an attacker that 3 stars 90-100% of the time in wars (my case)... well, you should keep to gohog/govaho/sirurgical, or any other variation, because this strategy brings good results, but it is not perfect and it will not work on some TH8 layouts with max defenses.
    Nope, I'm going to have to disagree with you. Mass hogs are likely the most consistent way to 3* at TH8. Once you get this/surgical attack strategy down, you will be well in excess of 90% 3* any/all max TH8 war bases. And I'm using 90% in an effort to be overly conservative

    And I'd love to see a base that it doesn't work on, as you comment above

    Quote Originally Posted by CHANDRIANO View Post
    So my conclusion is: Yes, it is a valid strategy, but only for those that doesn't get better scores with other attacks. The best quality is that you don't need to adapt the strategy to every layout (you don't even has to think). The main problem is that you can't adapt the strategy to each layout (if you do so, it will not be fishing hog, but another strategy of the many hog attack variations).
    I think I found your problem, as well as a misconception.

    You definitely have to think/plan for this attack/surgical to work best & you most definitely do adapt to each layout.

    You also seem to be hung up on the attack morphing from fish/surgical to some other form of hog attack, but that's just silly; some adjustments tailored to the base is precisely what you want. Just because you might group hogs together at a certain point doesn't change it too much.

    If you intention is to draw a delineation between fish and surgical, I suppose there might be. I'm technically a, "surgical" hog attacker, not necessarily a, "fish" hog attacker, but they strike me as similar. I roll my hogs around the base, fish gets them on the board very quickly. The end result, however, is very close...
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    So that now thus thread got a bit derailed and went into hogs...

    Mass/Surgical/Fish Hog attacks are very different to do and mass hogs is the easiest IMO
    Surgical is one of the hardest strats ive tried at Th8 and will probably continue to be (only govalo comes close)

    Hogs is mostly for those who are able to master it quickly and perfectly

    So,anyone tried fishhogs please tell me if its easier than surgical
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    Watched a couple of vids, how are they deployed? Using several fingers at once? Looks really complicated to get neat batches of 3 hogs out all at once!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barcher101 View Post
    Mass/Surgical/Fish Hog attacks are very different to do and mass hogs is the easiest IMO
    I disagree with your definitions. Surgical and Fish are both "mass hog" attacks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barcher101 View Post
    Surgical is one of the hardest strats ive tried at Th8 and will probably continue to be (only govalo comes close)
    With all due respect, you likely aren't doing it right then. It's actually one of the easiest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barcher101 View Post
    So,anyone tried fishhogs please tell me if its easier than surgical
    TIA
    As stated above, they end up pretty similar. In my mind, Fish hogs (somehow) deploys the hogs very quickly, but, at the end of the day, you end up sending small groups of hogs at each/various defenses, which is stunningly similar to what surgical hogs do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaticfringe View Post
    Nope, I'm going to have to disagree with you. Mass hogs are likely the most consistent way to 3* at TH8. Once you get this/surgical attack strategy down, you will be well in excess of 90% 3* any/all max TH8 war bases. And I'm using 90% in an effort to be overly conservative

    And I'd love to see a base that it doesn't work on, as you comment above
    I can't find it right now but I'll PM you. There ARE bases that fend off fish hogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaticfringe View Post
    I disagree with your definitions. Surgical and Fish are both "mass hog" attacks.



    With all due respect, you likely aren't doing it right then. It's actually one of the easiest.



    As stated above, they end up pretty similar. In my mind, Fish hogs (somehow) deploys the hogs very quickly, but, at the end of the day, you end up sending small groups of hogs at each/various defenses, which is stunningly similar to what surgical hogs do.
    I do agree that I'm not doing it correctly
    So I said it's one old the hardest as I could do every other strat

    Oh I see... Will try Asap

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    Oh please I would love to see those bases, pm me to attack those bases please. I have destroyed every th 8 base out there including the so called "spring bases" which in my opinion are terrible against dragloon
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpearGobs View Post
    I can't find it right now but I'll PM you. There ARE bases that fend off fish hogs.
    Hey read up top, I wanna see those bases
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    I have a couple bases I made and the whole Enraged Eight lineup of bases I might have stole (but will not share) that defend fish and surgical well. I did three star some of the with fish but not many. These will certainly defend well:

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnomatopoeiaDeerMeatMan View Post
    I have a couple bases I made and the whole Enraged Eight lineup of bases I might have stole (but will not share) that defend fish and surgical well. I did three star some of the with fish but not many. These will certainly defend well:

    I joined enraged eight to test this strategy and they were surprised with my attack as I 3ed every one of their bases. I admit some were a bit tricky especially the spring bases, but they still went down, hats off to some their great warbases though, that clan took my fishhog skills to the next level.
    Plus like I said most spring bases are easy dragloon, those 2 screenshots are easy dragloon zapquake. Balloons path straight to them Ads. Also if I see a base like that, I won't waste my dark on something that can be easily draglooned. A smart attacker won't just fishhog a base that has air defenses just out there for the taking
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