Originally Posted by Ckcollins2003
Sorry if this offends you but, try redesigning your base. You say a th7 wipes out your th9, come on. I've read so many posts of where folks think a certain troop is too strong when actually it's the design of their base is the problem
Too much nerfing and you ruin the fun. Why don't you just spam dragon too? Quit whining for nerf for christ's sake; Because of you whiners, the witch, valkyrie, hog, golem and even lava hound are getting constantly nerfed, making our life harder. You weak th6-8 quit playing coc and surrender your collectors if you hate being dragged. I have no problem crushing fron th6-9 3* with mere hogs pekka and valkyries. You might as well cry for hogs and pekka valkyrie for nerf should you find yourself constantly crushed by them.
You guys are thinking about this all wrong. Dragons are expensive. For me, 11 birds and 4 lightning cost just over 500k elixir (11 level 4 birds and 4 level 6 lightning) For me to even come close to breaking even in war, I would have to attack a mid level Th10, and that's just for 1 or maybe 2 stars. It's the same for The 7s and 8s. Even as a Th7, the cost of spells and troops was far more than the war bonus of another Th7 or 8. Dragon attacks, however boring we may think they are, serve a purpose. They help level the COC economy. Those people can either gem in more elixir, or take raids and star bonuses more seriously. I don't see anything wrong with the HP to DPS ratio.
Or... Like I've said for years, have the king able to throw his sword or golden fist at flying troops...
Even with 6 dragon the rest balloons plus lightning spells or eg spell its pretty easy to get a three star. Its too op imo. But even I use dragon every war. If you want a little difficulty check my thread, http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-The-strangler
I didn't read the entire thread I just wanted to offer some personal info.
When I was TH8 I used an all dragon army in war and usually 3 starred the base. This was before the 4th air defense was added along with the (Lets not forget this) additional base tiles. The perimeter of our land was increased by two tiles on each side. When I would do dragon attacks I would avoid bases that were spread out because dragons are slow and I would see myself running out of time before troops. Now those bases are spread out even more.
So SuperCell did in fact make the game harder to use Dragon attacks.
In my clan, people rush their th to 7 and get drags. Next thing you know, there 3 staring bases here and there, even when their against good th7s
I have to agree with the anti-nerfers on this one. At the, max dragons are the primary war attack. It is fairly easy to 3 star anyone without all 3 maxed air defences for th7. But outside of war, you are very hard pressed to find a the base with enough loot to break even on the cost of dragons. That is why dragons are balanced outside of war, but not quite so in war.
When you get to th8, up to lvl 2 dragons are very hard pressed to 3 star a the with maxed the air defences. I personally have experienced a 2 star, at the hands of an air defence that wasn't quite destroyed by a double lightning and EQ. Dragons also become too expensive to attack outside of war with, as only the most loot-filled and inactive bases hold that much elixir.
Past th8, dragons are less influential. At th9, you get the lava hound, and lavaloonian becomes more common than mass dragons. At th10, some mass dragon attacks come back with the maxing of the troop, but rarely are dragons seen in th10 war.
Based on this, Dragons are perfectly balanced after the town hall they are introduced at, similar to golems, pekkas, lava hounds, witches, and wizards. All are slightly OP at the town hall they are introduced at.
Last edited by Iainthedestroyer; April 8th, 2016 at 02:57 PM.
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ZapQuake strategy is ridiculously strong ! Opponent 14 defeated our No. 2 with mere ZapQuake and Mass Dragons !! Now even we do it , it is very boring , but a good change from Golem related stuff.
Yes Dragon's must be made more vulnerable . Maybe 1.25x damage by Air defense ??
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Mass dragon attacks are the main attack strategy at th 7. Just like when you get to th 8 you see mass hogs or a giwipe. It's just the thing people do. Before the update I would agree that th 7 required no skill at all to 3 star someone, but after that completely changed. 3 air defenses make it very challenging for non experienced players to 3 star. I even see th 8s with level 3 drags failing against a maxxed townhall 7. Drags are very strong and expensive but they are no guarantee.
Th 8 is also not even close to am easy 3 star. Sure if you're attacking a rushed th 8 or new th 8 then you should definitely be 3 starring more than failing. But once you see some stronger townhall 8s I would hardly even choose drags as a viable option. Once you get passed th 7 it all comes down to base design. Some designs allow for good drag strategies others would eat your dragons alive. It comes down to skill and design of defending base.
Overall drags are very strong and can be good once you learn how to use them but by no means are they an easy 3 star anymore. If you are constantly being destroyed by mass drags then there are 3 possibilities: your base design needs help, you are rushed, or you're being taken down by a stronger player who's probably a higher townhall.
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