Mass dragon attacks

[Ckcollins2003]

Between th 6 and th 9, the amount of mass dragon attacks being used to win war is ridiculous. The extra air defense has simply made it almost impossible to use healer/giant and the less time doesn't help. For the last 8 wars, my clan has been beaten by the ever so boring mass dragon attack. When your number 3 down is getting dragon attacked every single war, and when their th7 number 10 can 3 star your fresh th9 number 3, you know there is a problem with balance.

I suggest lowering the health pools of dragons. Currently in this war, the opposing team has used 8 mass dragon attacks and has 3 star'd all but 1. Make wars fun... make it to where skill actually plays a role rather than just lightning spell destroying an air defense and letting dragons run through. It's been long enough that these boring attacks have ruined wars. Make a change.

[LordJack1993]

good idea, i know what you mean, however it puts emphasis on "dragon fighting defences" such as air defence, air sweeper and archer tower to be upgraded to a higher level, i know this isn't what you want to hear but as I see it, that's the way to combat this

[OrdinRiff]

I disagree. The third air at th7 has eliminated many dragon spam attacks. Many clasher that previously just lightning an air then crushed the other with sheer dragon weight now fail.

While it might not be rocket science, I will say that three starring a decent th7 at th7 or an 8 at 8 takes genuine skill now. Perhaps not genius; but dropping a line of dragons and then letting them burn no longer works against mirror town halls nearly as often as it did a few months ago.

[Ckcollins2003]

I disagree. The third air at th7 has eliminated many dragon spam attacks. Many clasher that previously just lightning an air then crushed the other with sheer dragon weight now fail.

While it might not be rocket science, I will say that three starring a decent th7 at th7 or an 8 at 8 takes genuine skill now. Perhaps not genius; but dropping a line of dragons and then letting them burn no longer works against mirror town halls nearly as often as it did a few months ago.

I disagree, I've seen it first hand many times now. People rushing their bases to th7, upgrading a single barracks to make dragons, upgrading army camps and spell factories, and wiping bases that are fully or almost fully developed. And all they do is drop 10 dragons in a line with another high level dragon after taking out an air defense.

Even with 2 air defenses left, the probability of the attack succeeding is extremely high. My suggestion is either lower dragons health pool, or make air defenses do extra damage to dragons like giant bombs do to hogs. Dragons have many less traps to worry about than ground troops and take much less damage at the th7 level since the majority of defenses go against ground troops.

I agree that getting 3 stars is harder now than before the extra air defense, but if you seen our current and last 8 wars, you would see it is definitely a balance issue. A clan shouldnt be able to get 24 stars from only dragon attacks in a 10 man war.

[OrdinRiff]

But taking away dragon power means the game gets just a bit harder again. Dragons require some work to master, but if you take away their power, then your force more people to ADAPT yet again. Think many clashers are getting weary of adapting and as the dragon gets nerfed I think you will find a few more yet nerfing the game itself.

If your clan is good at war, then what does it matter that they get 24 stars on you? You should get 24 on them as a counter, then your not dragon users will win the war with whatever attack they use.

Dragons, whatever their power, do not give either side an unfair advantage. Gemmers and casuals have equal access - and it makes the game competitive for the casuals. And without them, you lose a lotta clashers we all need to fill our clans.

[Ckcollins2003]

But taking away dragon power means the game gets just a bit harder again. Dragons require some work to master, but if you take away their power, then your force more people to ADAPT yet again. Think many clashers are getting weary of adapting and as the dragon gets nerfed I think you will find a few more yet nerfing the game itself.

If your clan is good at war, then what does it matter that they get 24 stars on you? You should get 24 on them as a counter, then your not dragon users will win the war with whatever attack they use.

Dragons, whatever their power, do not give either side an unfair advantage. Gemmers and casuals have equal access - and it makes the game competitive for the casuals. And without them, you lose a lotta clashers we all need to fill our clans.

I never mentioned taking away their power, just their hit points. Getting a 3 star attack with ground troops on a base with a higher th than you is almost impossible, especially with the traps, lower hp, and time reduction now. Yet for some reason, dragon attacks are able to do this. That right there is a balance issue.

It's not the fact that you can't win a war without using dragon attacks, it's the fact that clan members can unskillfully just drop dragons in a line and almost always get a 3 star hit. If you can't get a 3 star with any other type of attack, then why should you easily be able to with dragons? People won't quit because Supercell balances the game... they will just have to finesse their attacks and use a little skill along the way.

While I agree dragons do not give anyone an unfair advantage since they are available to everyone at th7, that doesn't rebuke the fact that they are unbalanced because of their huge life pool. Valkyrie's didn't give anyone an unfair advantage, yet they got nerfed. Hogs didn't give anyone an unfair advantage, yet they take extra damage from giant bombs. Why is it that the huge life pool troop who can't be sent off by a spring trap didn't take a hp hit in the last update?

Mass dragon attacks are boring and repetetive between th7 and th9 and are succeeding just as much if not more than ground attacks. That's a problem.

[walkman057]

I agree and I also disagree. I agree in that dragon attacks are repetitive and take no skill. I disagree because they cost so much. At TH7, they cost 29,000x10 plus 20,000x3 lightning spells. This is over 300,000 elixir! They are basically wasting their money, even in a war.

[DangerJ]

You say that you have a fresh th9 that was swept with dragons of a TH7, thats a lie not even lvl 3 dragon make tickles to a th9, please tell your clanmates to develop their defenses to max before upgrading their th and make better bases, I'm th10, have lvl 4 dragons and they are week, I can only make 3 stars with dragon to a underpower TH9, Dragons are extremely week... Definetly the worst troop from th9 and above, even with lavas and ballons and believe me I have tried everything, when I was TH8 I could make 3star to almost every village before the air sweeper, but after? Is very hard, and in Th9 i get the second one... Some bases at th8 is almost imposible to make 2 star now with mass dragon attack

[Ckcollins2003]

You say that you have a fresh th9 that was swept with dragons of a TH7, thats a lie not even lvl 3 dragon make tickles to a th9, please tell your clanmates to develop their defenses to max before upgrading their th and make better bases, I'm th10, have lvl 4 dragons and they are week, I can only make 3 stars with dragon to a underpower TH9, Dragons are extremely week... Definetly the worst troop from th9 and above, even with lavas and ballons and believe me I have tried everything, when I was TH8 I could make 3star to almost every village before the air sweeper, but after? Is very hard, and in Th9 i get the second one... Some bases at th8 is almost imposible to make 2 star now with mass dragon attack

So you dont believe someone with th8 air defenses can be wiped easily by a th7 dragon attack? Hahahaha!! Youtube... I couldnt believe it either but hey, it's actually very common... because dragons are unbalanced af.

If you can't 3 star with a dragon attack almost every time then you are doing something wrong, and I'm not sure what because I've only seen 1 dragon attack fail to get 3 stars in the last 2 weeks and that was against a th9.

While I agree they are expensive, that makes no difference in game balancing. If you honestly cannot say that dragons are way OP in th7 and th8 then ignorance is at hand. If dragons are worthless at th9, th10, and th11, then why shouldnt Supercell lower their health pool? It's not going to effect anyone except where it is a problem, which is in the th6, 7, and 8 levels.

[OrdinRiff]

If you take away take their hit points down you nerf yet another troop.

I have to disagree with you about the skill.

You cannot 3 star a decent th 8 by just dropping dragons. If that happens in your clan then wow, either you have insanely easy war matchups or it is your bases that need work.

it takes skill to 3 star a th8 with dragons. Perhaps not tons of it, but skill is required. We have had a few two star heroes in our clan with dragons. That last defense gets em, archer tower or tesla even if they take the air down.

But you take those 2 star people and some of the good enough to consistently three dragon users and slow that attack a bit so it is harder.

Who does that benefit?

You could have used same strategy against them.

And, if attacks keep failing, some of them adapt, some of them lose interest and quit.

Again, not good for the game.

I just fail to see how a universally available tactic that is not the domain of gemmers and still requires practice and skill is over powered.


Dropping drags in a line at th8 only three stars bad bases.