Matchmaking post-update on my engineered clan.

[HailmaryHeroes]

did any of you haters actually read his post? he isnt bragging at all. he is simply posting progress of his engineered clans because of the recent changes in the war algorithm and is just sharing that it is still working.

if a scientist finds a development in cancer treatment and shares his findings is that bragging about his intelligence ?

[Swoity]

I think it's interesting. But it also takes the fun out of it for your opponents. If you war against a 'normal clan' of beginners, that consequently have no chance of winning, you're wasting 15/20 people's time who could be involved in a competitive, FUN, winnable war instead.

[ExLooner]

I think it's interesting. But it also takes the fun out of it for your opponents. If you war against a 'normal clan' of beginners, that consequently have no chance of winning, you're wasting 15/20 people's time who could be involved in a competitive, FUN, winnable war instead.

It's a very valuable learning experience if the enemy team takes advantage of it. One war can show them exactly how they should be attacking. Most won't, but a tiny % will. It's not just beginner clans that can do that either, my own clan leaped ahead in technique from one such pummeling. We decided to learn from instead of being bitter about the loss. Best loss we ever had.

And I wouldn't call beginner wars competitive exactly. It's a whole different world down there. Luring is unknown and beginner clans typically send their entire war armies to be slaughtered by cc troops. They're not used to cc troops, lots of them don't fill anything.

One of my clans is a non-engineered noob clan and for the first 150 wars or so we were just boggled how many god awful clans we fought. My co in particular had a hard time realizing that nothing we see in higher th wars was applicable in this clan of beginner wars. The enemy wasn't waiting to attack as a strategy, they just hardly participate, they don't fill clan castles with their best troops, etc. Forget everything you know about war, it just doesn't apply.

In other words, don't feel bad for pigs wallowing in their own filth, that's just how they are.

[whp4]

It's a very valuable learning experience if the enemy team takes advantage of it. One war can show them exactly how they should be attacking. Most won't, but a tiny % will. It's not just beginner clans that can do that either, my own clan leaped ahead in technique from one such pummeling. We decided to learn from instead of being bitter about the loss. Best loss we ever had.

Amen, brother. I'm convinced that getting matched up with someone better on occasion is the road to success. Not so often that the clan gets demoralized, of course. See someone do something clever, everyone watches the replays and practices the technique themselves, retools their bases. Getting matched against weaker clans, or even comparable ones that do the same attacks, progress will be slow for most. I think there are a lot of mediocre clans out there that have always been matched against mediocre clans, and no one gets appreciably better. Lose a war today, win several next month.

[squid1066]

War matches are usually in our favor and wars are usually close but we do have about 20% blow outs. Its all great until you meet another engineered clan. Our clans 32 war Win streak came to an end today as the result of a tie, we got matched against another engineered clan. Our clans were built completely different, not sure if you would consider them to be engineered though.
Them:
Level 4 clan fed by th9 max troops
2- th8 purple walls max troops/defenses
2- th7 max troops/defenses
1- th6 max troops/defenses
5- max th3

Us:
Lvl6 clan fed by th9 max troops
2-th8 mid level defenses/ lvl7 walls/max offense lvl 9 & 7 barb king
3- th8 w/ mid th7 defenses/lvl 4-6 walls/lvl1 troops except lvl2-4 hogs no barb king
1-th8 defenseless lvl1 troops lvl3 hogs
1- th7 no walls max defense lvl1 troops lvl2 hogs lvl3 barb king
1-th7 defenseless lvl1 troops lvl2 hogs no barb king
2-th4 lvl1 defenses/ lvl1 troops

[athancoreextreme]

Nonsense to place lower townhalls than 9 since plenty of the teams with that kind of lower lvl roster still knows little about the game mechanics...

So to make ur experiment relevant go ahead with a th9-th10 search...chances are ul be matched against a viet or chinese team who will 💜💜💜💜💜 you to death 😂

I did have to make some changes to my engineered clan, even before the update.

Pre-Update composition:

1 mid th9
20 th5-7 defenseless
20 blanks (th3)

I noticed that, before the update, I couldn't find matches because simply put, there aren't many engineered clans out there. My clan is so engineered with the defenseless that we couldn't find a matchup. So, we had to turn a few defenseless into hybrids.

Hybrid design:

104 walls to complete the circle around CC, so you'll have to break through the wall to release the cc troops.
Walls stopping at wall level 5 (or maybe 6, depending).
Level 4 archer towers.
Level 4 cannons.
Big bombs and spring traps.

This was done in order to get matchups.

Now, we have 4 th6-7 hybrids and the rest defenseless and blanks.

since update:

Matches are still heavily in my favour. I would suggest that the search primarily tries to match with war weight (defense) and as it passes the 10 minute mark, it will slowly shift the matching system away from war weight to offensive weight.

I say this because I find a lot of matches that have run past 10 minutes will look more and more skewered, but offensively, the separation doesn't seem to be all that great.

Anyway, here's the war log, enjoy the 100% destruction!!! Current war is 100% but ends in 18 hours. We do spy, but more to say hi, chat, and look at war log etc. We do not mod, especially since the matchups are so one-sided, they require no amount of effort to win.

Dark Assassins, level 4 clan, Canada region.

[Swoity]

It's a very valuable learning experience if the enemy team takes advantage of it. One war can show them exactly how they should be attacking. Most won't, but a tiny % will. It's not just beginner clans that can do that either, my own clan leaped ahead in technique from one such pummeling. We decided to learn from instead of being bitter about the loss. Best loss we ever had.

And I wouldn't call beginner wars competitive exactly. It's a whole different world down there. Luring is unknown and beginner clans typically send their entire war armies to be slaughtered by cc troops. They're not used to cc troops, lots of them don't fill anything.

One of my clans is a non-engineered noob clan and for the first 150 wars or so we were just boggled how many god awful clans we fought. My co in particular had a hard time realizing that nothing we see in higher th wars was applicable in this clan of beginner wars. The enemy wasn't waiting to attack as a strategy, they just hardly participate, they don't fill clan castles with their best troops, etc. Forget everything you know about war, it just doesn't apply.

In other words, don't feel bad for pigs wallowing in their own filth, that's just how they are.

You make a couple of good points. Of course a loss against someone with similar troops and townhall level will help your attacks (especially luring); and if they don't care, then it doesn't really matter.

However, on the odd occasion when they are interested and are looking for some fun, we're talking about a highly engineered war clan, with much better troops, taking on noobs. Perhaps they could take something away from it about attacking, but how much can a th5 learn from a th7 mass dragon attack?

[cnaf]

TH9/8 clan here. We matched with a slight engineering clan over the weekend. The top of each side was pretty equal- fully maxed and near maxed TH9s.

Where they had the advantage- was at the bottom. A completely defenseless TH9, only a lvl1 cannon. AQ 5, maxed TH9 troops and spells. Two extra TH9 attacks. Everything else was pretty even across the board, offense and defense. So certainly viable post update.

With SC placing more emphasis on the top, I don't see how it wouldn't be.

[Birdcraft]

TH9/8 clan here. We matched with a slight engineering clan over the weekend. The top of each side was pretty equal- fully maxed and near maxed TH9s.

Where they had the advantage- was at the bottom. A completely defenseless TH9, only a lvl1 cannon. AQ 5, maxed TH9 troops and spells. Two extra TH9 attacks. Everything else was pretty even across the board, offense and defense. So certainly viable post update.

With SC placing more emphasis on the top, I don't see how it wouldn't be.

We saw an engineered clan over the weekend too. Didn't help them one little bit. Our th5/6 had no issues taking out their defenseless th8s. When they woke up to do their attacks and saw we had all 60 stars they didn't bother but a token few attacks. Funny thing was their clan description said something to the effect of never give up, never surrender, and we are the red line in your war log. Their clan description was a lie.

[kaboler]

I'm back! I'll try to ignore the trolls.

#90UQJGJC is my clan. I'm leaving it on invite only, if you want to come see.

I have been matching against primarily other engineered clans, so you can quit crying about how I'm beating on noob clans.

I fully believe that offensive war weight matters! Come see my FancyLad account. He is EPIC!!!

19 hundred percent destructions in a row. We just beat a Chinese clan, only managed a 35 percent destruction th8 vs mid th9 (me). Other non Chinese clans can, with a th6 can 36 percent me. Just goes to show engineering can't win every war, you might actually have to be good.