View Poll Results: Which of the following should be added? (can choose more than one, BE HONEST)

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  • Bomb changes

    52 33.12%
  • Spring Trap changes

    36 22.93%
  • Air bomb changes

    38 24.20%
  • Seeking air mine changes

    41 26.11%
  • Giant bomb changes

    35 22.29%
  • Telsa changes

    40 25.48%
  • New Giant Spring Trap

    52 33.12%
  • New Fake Buildings

    38 24.20%
  • All of the above

    34 21.66%
  • None of the above

    21 13.38%
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Thread: [Massive trap update:] New traps, changes to current traps, and more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbychan193 View Post
    Traps are a small part of anyone's defense, but sometimes they can play a big role in the outcome of a battle. Currently, traps are sometimes underestimated and ignored. I am proposing a series of changes to current traps, in addition to new traps and systems.

    Before posting, I thoroughly read and re-read the trap section on the sticky and I'm pretty sure none of the following has been mentioned before. However, if I have accidentally plagiarized someone else's ideas, please tell me and I will delete it ASAP.

    So, without more pre-explaining on my part, let's launch right into it.

    Current traps and their changes:

    Note: "levels" refer to the level of the players

    1. Bomb

    • Useful for lower levels, almost useless for higher levels (troops have higher health)
    • Allow stacking for a cost (e.g. putting 2 or more bombs onto one spot to allow for more damage): will help to do more damage to troops of higher levels (damage = bomb base damage x number of bombs; trigger radius, area of affect, and explosion time are all the same as a normal, unstacked bomb)
    • Allow individual bombs / giant bombs to make a chain reaction (e.g. one bomb / giant bomb explodes / is triggered, other bombs / giant bombs in its range also explode / are triggered); toggleable on / off by the player, default is off


    2. Spring Trap


    • Useful for all levels (instant kill no matter how much health the troops have)
    • Annoying when triggered by a single troop (and sometimes not even affecting it)
    • Allow trigger adjustments for weight: manually set by the player after purchase (Example: Set to 5, spring trap will only be activated when 5 or more army camp spaces of troops step on it; 5 archers or 1 giant can both trigger it, but one goblin can't); default is 1, can be set from 1-15


    3. Air Bomb

    • Useful for most levels (against balloons / minions)
    • Sometimes troop targeted is killed before Air Bomb even reaches it; make it so that air bomb will target another troop (if available) if the first troop is killed (to balance, Air Bomb will explode after x seconds after it has been activated if it still didn't find an air troop to damage)


    4. Seeking Air Mine

    • Useful for higher levels (good against dragons especially)
    • Same as above: sometimes troop targeted is killed before Seeking Air Mine even reaches it; make it so that Seeking Air Mine will target another troop (if available) if the first troop is killed (to balance, Seeking Air Mine will explode after x seconds after it has been activated if it still didn't find an air troop to damage); this prevents a total waste of 600 dark elixir


    5. Giant Bomb

    • Useful for middle levels, sometimes good for high levels as well (good against mass tier one and two troops)
    • Same as above: Allow individual bombs / giant bombs to make a chain reaction (e.g. one bomb / giant bomb explodes / is triggered, other bombs / giant bombs in its range also explode / are triggered); toggleable on / off by the player, default is off


    6. Hidden Teslas (yes I know it's not a legitimate trap)

    • Useful for higher levels (good against all troops, especially PEKKAs)
    • Allow multi-telsa conduction (e.g. have you ever played a game in which a certain defensive tower can become stronger if more are built in close proxtimity, like Red Alert 2's Spectrum Tower? This is what I'm proposing: to have teslas in the range of each other be able to conduct electricity between them, which makes all towers slightly stronger; maybe +5% damage?)
    • Show trigger radius / put it in the info (I think this one's in the sticky, but I'll put I here anyway)


    New traps:

    1. Giant Spring Trap (complement to Giant Bomb)

    • 2x2 space, launches up to 30 army camp spaces of troops
    • Can only be activated by 10 or more troops stepping on it at once (so single troops cannot activate it)
    • Same as above: Trigger adjustments for weight: manually set by the player after purchase (Example: Set to 15, spring trap will only be activated when 5 or more army camp spaces of troops step on it; 15 archers or 3 giants can both trigger it, but one goblin can't); default is 10, can be set from 10-30
    • Cost: somewhere between 30000 and 60000 gold
    • One available at TH 8 and another at TH 10


    2. Fake buildings

    • Can be disguised as any building at any level and looks like a normal building to attackers, but to you it is different from actual buildings (great for intimidation, distraction, etc.)
    • Only 1 health and doesn't have any real functions (e.g. if it's a defense, it can't attack enemies; if it's a storage, it can't store anything; if it's a hidden tesla, it's not hidden) other than luring troops with favorite targets, etc.
    • Can also be a fake TH, Hero Altar, etc.
    • Doesn't count towards the battle result (e.g. doesn't have to be destroyed to get 100%)
    • Can hide bombs and other traps inside (explode once the fake building is destroyed)
    • Cost: dependable on the building imitated (e.g. hero altar would cost DE, but a small amount; gold storage would cost a small amount of elixir, but it can be at any level in appearance)
    • One available at TH 5, another at TH 8, and the last at TH 10
    • Have to be rebought, like other traps



    More to come!

    Thanks for reading; please leave a comment and tell me what you think!

    ~bobbychan193

    EDIT:

    Here are some ideas from other forum members who posted in this thread:



    Fake walls (variation of fake buildings)


    • 1 health, like fake buildings; one time use (have to be re-purchased)
    • Can be used as a good distraction for wall breakers
    • Cost: 1000-5000 gold each
    • First 5 unlocked at TH 3, then 5 more every TH after that, so 40 in total at TH 10



    This is for people who think replacing traps are really inconvenient. ^ I do agree; it doesn't unbalance the current system while also allowing players to have an easier time replacing traps.



    Okay idea, I guess. Thanks.

    Pros:

    1. Easy solution to the spring trap not being able to launch larger troops
    2. Re-usable (most likely; doesn't make sense if it disappears after troops fall inside)
    3. Traps the troops (maybe use them in your own army?) or instantly kills them

    Cons:

    1. Logic: shouldn't traps be one-time use? If it's re-usable, then it should be upgrade-able, which makes it a normal building that will become too OP (if it's hidden)
    2.Will affect the leaderboards and high leveled players (golems and PEKKAs all fall inside? No, not good)
    3. Probably too OP



    Still needs refining, I guess.

    NEW TRAP:

    3. Witch Tower (for anti-arcane purposes)

    • Made out of skeletons that she summons, a 2x2 trap that has a trigger radius and range similar to that of a tesla
    • Only triggered by wizards or witches and does not attack (has an area of effect instead)
    • Weakens wizards: -25% movement speed and -25% damage per attack
    • Weakens witches: -25% movement speed, -25% summoning speed, -25% damage per attack and -1 skeleton summoned
    • Weakness for witches passes on to summoned skeletons that are summoned during the weakening of the witch
    • Lasts for 1 minute before the tower witch's powers fail (or when tower is destroyed by other troops)
    • VERY GOOD for higher leveled players complaining about the witch imbalance
    • 1 for TH9 and that's it (1500 DE)
    • 500 HP


    I finally got a new idea!
    Tell me what you think!
    I must say that this is impressive, you put a lot of work in to this, but just for your information that they have already changed the giant bombs, they now cost 20k gold and apparently they do more damage, but I love the fake buildings idea, almost like a decoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coopman988 View Post
    I must say that this is impressive, you put a lot of work in to this, but just for your information that they have already changed the giant bombs, they now cost 20k gold and apparently they do more damage, but I love the fake buildings idea, almost like a decoy.
    That info is three week old, the giant bomb changes came from~1 week? ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokey View Post
    That info is three week old, the giant bomb changes came from~1 week? ago.
    He just posted 19 hours ago meaning that this isn't a inactive post...Oh and I forgot about the giant bomb change happen after this post my bad...
    Last edited by coopman988; August 20th, 2013 at 02:26 AM.

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    The idea of traps that are automatically bought after been used in a battle has been said before. I came up with the idea of a new hero that can automatically lay traps for you. Possibly a goblin; just an idea though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganjaperoni View Post
    Bump!

    lots of good ideas.
    Thanks for your support!

    Quote Originally Posted by coopman988 View Post
    I must say that this is impressive, you put a lot of work in to this, but just for your information that they have already changed the giant bombs, they now cost 20k gold and apparently they do more damage, but I love the fake buildings idea, almost like a decoy.
    I know, but I would still like to see some of my other ideas implemented.

    Thanks for your support as well!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jefferyenns8 View Post
    The idea of traps that are automatically bought after been used in a battle has been said before. I came up with the idea of a new hero that can automatically lay traps for you. Possibly a goblin; just an idea though.
    Ok.


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    Does anyone else have any comments, suggestions, or ideas? I would really appreciated if everyone voting in the poll also left a comment...


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    giant spring trap seems way too OP


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonY View Post
    giant spring trap seems way too OP
    It's large cost should justify, though maybe it does need more adjusting.


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    Thumbs Up New Idea, again!

    New idea:

    Allow sideways placement for Spring Traps


    • Has to be placed with the side that is opposite of the "launch pad" touching a wall, building, obstacle, or other solid object ("connected"); rotate-able
    • Activated when troops walk within one square of the direction the spring trap is facing (e.g. trap --> square)
    • Will launch troops backwards for 1-15 blocks, depending on how many army camp spaces of troops (e.g. 1 archer: 15 blocks; 3 giants: 1 block) and stuns the troop(s) for 5 seconds if they hit a barrier before reaching the end of the launch (e.g. walls or buildings, etc.)
    • Works in unison with bombs; if a bomb is placed before it and it is activated, it launches the bomb as well and the bomb explodes upon contact with any troop it touches, or until it has stopped moving (can't launch giant bombs because it's too big and heavy)


    Allow sideways placement for Giant Spring Traps


    • Same general concept as the sideways spring trap
    • Activated when troops walk within a 2x2 area of the direction the giant spring trap is facing
    • Will launch troops backwards for 1-30 blocks, depending on how many army camp spaces of troops (e.g. 1 archer: 30 blocks; 6 giants: 1 block) and stuns the troop(s) for 10 seconds if they hit a barrier before reaching the end of the launch (e.g. walls or buildings, etc.)
    • Works in unison with bombs and giant bombs; if a bomb(s) / giant bomb is placed before it and it is activated, it launches the bomb(s) / giant bomb as well and the bomb(s) / giant bomb explodes upon contact with any troop it touches, or until it has stopped moving (works with up to 4 bombs or 1 giant bomb; a giant bomb placed 2 spaces away won't be launched)


    Again, please tell me what you think. Thanks!


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    Unhappy Feedback please...

    New idea:

    Allow "select row" and "rotate row" options for groups of bombs / spring traps / air bombs


    • Useful for players with lots of traps but don't like moving them one by one
    • Many players have groups of these traps as well; allow "select group" option, which allows you to move a group of traps in close proxtimity to each other (e.g. all traps within one block of another trap)


    Please tell me what you think! Thanks.


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