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  1. You forgot about the competition that you're...

    You forgot about the competition that you're going to face, which really is the most important aspect (IMO).

    First, I think any, even casual war clan is going to want to reach as high of a tier as...
  2. Exactly! It also discourages even relatively...

    Exactly!

    It also discourages even relatively casual clans from taking in lower TH players and/or putting them on the bench. Casual war clans still want to win.
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    I believe, when the OP say "league system" he...

    I believe, when the OP say "league system" he means clan war leagues, and he's complaining about mismatches in CWL, which are inevitable, because there is no matchmaking in CWL.
  4. I see your points, but I would look at the...

    I see your points, but I would look at the advantages/disadvantages from a different perspective.

    You say that having only one attack in war would be an advantage to good engineers over bad...
  5. Who said anything was wrong with being a farmer?...

    Who said anything was wrong with being a farmer? I was just pointing out that there are casual war players as well who compete in wars to test their skill.

    Oh, and that should be broad, not board!...
  6. So, to you, winning and losing in CWL is not...

    So, to you, winning and losing in CWL is not important? It's all about the loot? I would call that a farmer, not the more board category of casual, which could also mean casual war player.

    Okay,...
  7. I suppose you can define it how you want, but...

    I suppose you can define it how you want, but then I would expect you're not going to find very many games that are widely considered P2W to fit that definition.

    In any case, call it what you...
  8. That is not the standard definition of pay to...

    That is not the standard definition of pay to win, and clearly, based on my posts, not what I mean, so why are you making an argument based on that assumption?
  9. Maybe I'm wrong, and when a clan is given a...

    Maybe I'm wrong, and when a clan is given a choice between accepting a TH12 or a TH7, they will chose the TH7, even though that will drag them down in CWL, or when the select players for the CWL they...
  10. And that is why I've been arguing for years that...

    And that is why I've been arguing for years that CoC is/was not P2W, but IMO that no longer applies with CWL, or at least it applies less. There are distinct advantages in CWL to having a stronger...
  11. Yes. I'm in a mixed clan, and "success" mean...

    Yes. I'm in a mixed clan, and "success" mean winning battles and winning wars.



    I misspoke. It doesn't match TH level, but it does try to match individual base strength. It is not perfect,...
  12. So, what you're saying is that if you have a clan...

    So, what you're saying is that if you have a clan with some lower-level player in it, then expect to be in one of the bottom tiers. I agree.
  13. This summarizes exactly what I think is wrong...

    This summarizes exactly what I think is wrong about CWL and why I think it's going to be bad for the diversity of the game. If you're a low TH player, you're not going to be welcome in clans with...
  14. I am a near max TH12, and, no I'm still in the...

    I am a near max TH12, and, no I'm still in the same clan that I've been in for years. This is not an argument about me, other than if I want to have success in CWL I'll have to move to another clan...
  15. Higher TH levels have absolutely not had an...

    Higher TH levels have absolutely not had an advantage over lower TH levels in the past. When you search in multiplayer you get plenty of bases at your TH level to attack. The war matchmaking...
  16. It just takes a quick look at a few threads on...

    It just takes a quick look at a few threads on this forum to see that town halls less than 8-9 are not going to be welcome in CWL, and even town halls less than 12 will be "less welcome" than max...
  17. I've been arguing for four years on this forum...

    I've been arguing for four years on this forum that CoC is not pay to win. You could progress at your own pace and, for the most part, face competition at your level, not matter what lever you were....
  18. Not only that, but what kind of game is it that...

    Not only that, but what kind of game is it that leaves their newer players on the sideline? My fondest memories in the game are from when I was TH8 and lower, constantly participated in war and was...
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    This clan games was awful! Almost all of the...

    This clan games was awful! Almost all of the choices were BB, and those that were not BB were for almost nothing.

    I slaved several days on multi-player for 100 points here and 150 point there, not...
  20. No. What made you think I said that? Please...

    No. What made you think I said that?


    Please read my previous posts. It has nothing to do with clan strength. It has to do with clan makeup.

    I also didn't say anything about which side the...
  21. Thank you. That is my plan, but it doesn't help...

    Thank you. That is my plan, but it doesn't help my clan much. I also can't go a week (or even a day) without having a hero upgrading, so there's also that...
  22. How long have you played the game? In my...

    How long have you played the game?

    In my experience people tend to quit when:
    1) They just get bored of the game
    2) They reach a TH level where they start to struggle. This is typically around...
  23. Clearly we have a different opinion about what...

    Clearly we have a different opinion about what CWL wars are going to be like. I have serious doubts that machups are just going to work themselves out for mixed TH clans. My suspicion is that CWL...
  24. IMO a clan is more than just a bunch of TH12s...

    IMO a clan is more than just a bunch of TH12s getting together to war. I don't see very many clans that only have TH12s. It appears (according to the description that I referenced) that it is...
  25. That's called an anecdote, not proof. There are...

    That's called an anecdote, not proof. There are all kinds of reasons that you could have won. We all know that TH level alone does not tell you the strength of the base.
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