L5 Barbarians over L4

I been the reading the forums for a few weeks now and finally registered. Anyways I have notice lots of people are saying use barbarians for farming. I have tried using L4 barbarians but i haven't really had good results in my raids. Im a new town hall 8 and was planning on saving barbarians for later but if L5 makes a big difference i might upgrade them sooner.

So my question is, are L5 barbarians so much better than L4? I can look at the numbers on wiki just as easily as you can. But in your personal experience are L5 barbarians a big improvement...

I find that in groups, they destroy buildings noticeably faster. Also always, they can take at least a couple direct mortar blasts.

lvl 5 archers seem to be a bigger improvement from lvl 4, but the barbs are worth doing early on in the lab if you like to use them.

barbarians are good if you don't use too many of them. oftentimes, around 60 or so is the maximum amount of barbarians you really want in your army, especially if your army is diverse.

I use 150 archers and 50 gobs, works a treat.

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Originally Posted by Ryan0412

I use 150 archers and 50 gobs, works a treat.

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gobs or barbs?

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Originally Posted by ar4x4rebel

So my question is, are L5 barbarians so much better than L4? I can look at the numbers on wiki just as easily as you can. But in your personal experience are L5 barbarians a big improvement...

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all of the upgrades to level 5 are sizable. goblins become very very good (to the point that supercell hasn't even dared to introduce lvl 6 goblins). lvl 5 archers are already so good that supercell made lvl 6 archers very marginally better (importantly, lvl 6 archers can survive a lvl 5 mortar shot while lvl 5 archers can't -- but that doesn't matter once you farm better bases). for both giants and barbs, i noticed a big improvement in upgrading to lvl 5, too.

in my personal experience, as i advanced in th8, i started using more and more lvl 5 barbs. i started out using 20 lvl 5 barbs in my farming army (mostly using them to trigger spring traps and swarm BKs/clan castle troops) and gradually worked my way up to 40 barbs. i use fewer goblins and archers, as i've noticed that barbs survive pretty much anything and are more reliable, whereas an ill-timed mortar shot can wipe 10 archers in seconds.

my current farming army is working out very well. my current farming army comprises:

10 giants
10 wbs
40 barbs
36 goblins
54 archers

NOTE: BARBARIANS ARE MEELE AND ARCHERS ARE RANGED MEANING STATS DIFFER ON PERSONAL LIKING FOR MEELE OR RANGE

Barbarian:

Preferred Target	Attack Type	Housing Space	Training Time	Movement Speed	Attack Speed	Barracks Level Required	Range
None	Melee (Ground Only)	1	20s	16	1s	1	0.4 squares

Archer:

Preferred Target	Attack Type	Housing Space	Training Time	Movement Speed	Attack Speed	Barracks Level Required	Range
None	Ranged (Air and Ground)	1	25s	24	1s	2	3.5 squares

- Barbarian and Archer both go for random items, which can be very annoying. Barbarian: 0 Archer: 0

- Archer can attack ranged and also attack flying clan castle reinforcements, the barbarian cant Barbarian: 0 Archer: 1

- They both have 1 housing space Barbarian : 0 Archer: 1

- Barbarians take 20 seconds to make, while Archers take 25 seconds to make Barbarian : 1 Archer: 1

- Archers are much faster than Barbarians, Barbarians move at 16 while archers move at 24 Barbarian: 1 Archer: 2

- They both have attack per second Barbarian: 1 Archer : 2

- Barbarians range is 0.4, though Archer ranges 3.5 squares Barbarian: 1 Archer : 3

Barbarian:

Level	Damage per Second	Hitpoints	Training Costhttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...3px-Elixir.png	Research Costhttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...3px-Elixir.png	Laboratory Level Required	Research Time

5

20

40

200

2,250,000

6

5 days

Archer :

Level	Damage per Second	Hitpoints	Training Cost http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...3px-Elixir.png	Research Cost http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...3px-Elixir.png	Laboratory Level Required	Research Time

5

20

40

200

2,250,000

6

5 days

- Barbarians have the same DPS as Archers Barbarians : 1 Archers : 3

- Barbarians and Archers have the same Hitpoints Barbarians : 1 Archers : 3

- Barbarians and Archers have the same training cost Barbarians : 1 Archers : 3

- Barbarians and Archers cost the same to upgrade Barbarians : 1 Archers : 3

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- Archers are an amazing clan donation troop

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Personally Archers are better at range, clan donations, and more as you can see above. Hope this helps!

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Originally Posted by ClasherOfClans

NOTE: BARBARIANS ARE MEELE AND ARCHERS ARE RANGED MEANING STATS DIFFER ON PERSONAL LIKING FOR MEELE OR RANGE

Barbarian:

Preferred Target	Attack Type	Housing Space	Training Time	Movement Speed	Attack Speed	Barracks Level Required	Range
None	Melee (Ground Only)	1	20s	16	1s	1	0.4 squares

Archer:

Preferred Target	Attack Type	Housing Space	Training Time	Movement Speed	Attack Speed	Barracks Level Required	Range
None	Ranged (Air and Ground)	1	25s	24	1s	2	3.5 squares

- Barbarian and Archer both go for random items, which can be very annoying. Barbarian: 0 Archer: 0

- Archer can attack ranged and also attack flying clan castle reinforcements, the barbarian cant Barbarian: 0 Archer: 1

- They both have 1 housing space Barbarian : 0 Archer: 1

- Barbarians take 20 seconds to make, while Archers take 25 seconds to make Barbarian : 1 Archer: 1

- Archers are much faster than Barbarians, Barbarians move at 16 while archers move at 24 Barbarian: 1 Archer: 2

- They both have attack per second Barbarian: 1 Archer : 2

- Barbarians range is 0.4, though Archer ranges 3.5 squares Barbarian: 1 Archer : 3

Barbarian:

Level	Damage per Second	Hitpoints	Training Costhttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...3px-Elixir.png	Research Costhttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...3px-Elixir.png	Laboratory Level Required	Research Time

5

20

40

200

2,250,000

6

5 days

Archer :

Level	Damage per Second	Hitpoints	Training Cost http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...3px-Elixir.png	Research Cost http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...3px-Elixir.png	Laboratory Level Required	Research Time

5

20

40

200

2,250,000

6

5 days

- Barbarians have the same DPS as Archers Barbarians : 1 Archers : 3

- Barbarians and Archers have the same Hitpoints Barbarians : 1 Archers : 3

- Barbarians and Archers have the same training cost Barbarians : 1 Archers : 3

- Barbarians and Archers cost the same to upgrade Barbarians : 1 Archers : 3

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- Archers are an amazing clan donation troop

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Personally Archers are better at range, clan donations, and more as you can see above. Hope this helps!

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and that is where you sir are wrong level 5 barbs are 1.500.000 not 2.225.000 and lv 6 are 4.500.000 where as level 6 archers are 7.500.000 in my opinion barbarians are better I currently have lv6 barbs and lv4 archers (cos archers suk)

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Originally Posted by ClasherOfClans

Barbarian:

Level	Damage per Second	Hitpoints	Training Costhttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...3px-Elixir.png	Research Costhttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...3px-Elixir.png	Laboratory Level Required	Research Time

5

20

40

200

2,250,000

6

5 days

Archer :

Level	Damage per Second	Hitpoints	Training Cost http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...3px-Elixir.png	Research Cost http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...3px-Elixir.png	Laboratory Level Required	Research Time

5

20

40

200

2,250,000

6

5 days

- Barbarians have the same DPS as Archers Barbarians : 1 Archers : 3

- Barbarians and Archers have the same Hitpoints Barbarians : 1 Archers : 3

- Barbarians and Archers have the same training cost Barbarians : 1 Archers : 3

- Barbarians and Archers cost the same to upgrade Barbarians : 1 Archers : 3

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- Archers are an amazing clan donation troop

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Personally Archers are better at range, clan donations, and more as you can see above. Hope this helps!

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you copied the archer stats twice. barbs have higher dps, WAY higher HP (over double), lower training cost, and cost less to upgrade than archers.

if a lvl 5 barb meets a lvl 5 archer in a dark alley, only the barb is walking away.

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Originally Posted by resnullius

all of the upgrades to level 5 are sizable. goblins become very very good (to the point that supercell hasn't even dared to introduce lvl 6 goblins). lvl 5 archers are already so good that supercell made lvl 6 archers very marginally better (importantly, lvl 6 archers can survive a lvl 5 mortar shot while lvl 5 archers can't -- but that doesn't matter once you farm better bases). for both giants and barbs, i noticed a big improvement in upgrading to lvl 5, too.

in my personal experience, as i advanced in th8, i started using more and more lvl 5 barbs. i started out using 20 lvl 5 barbs in my farming army (mostly using them to trigger spring traps and swarm BKs/clan castle troops) and gradually worked my way up to 40 barbs. i use fewer goblins and archers, as i've noticed that barbs survive pretty much anything and are more reliable, whereas an ill-timed mortar shot can wipe 10 archers in seconds.

my current farming army is working out very well. my current farming army comprises:

10 giants
10 wbs
40 barbs
36 goblins
54 archers

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Thanks for the info that helps. I got like 8 hours left on my archers but i still think I'm going to do my gobs next but I might do the barbs sooner plus there cheap.

To the guy that gave all the facts thats exactly what I didn't want. I can look up the facts on wiki. I just wanted someone's personal view who uses barbs or who doesn't like them. This is a thread isn't about which is better archers or barbs.