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Report from the titan 3 division...

So before this update i was a maxed out TH10 with exception of walls, (arround half was 11)
I usualy logged in twice a day and made sessions between 1 and 2 hours searching for something that was worth raiding and i did snipe every TH i came across. (TH outside was a free 230k of booth gold and elixer)
This way I upgraded arround 2 walls to level 11 a day, so yeah decent result... BUT while i was searching i was allways watching youtube, anime, movie or reading a book (you have 1 to 2 mins of clouds average and thats when you search villages when players are active, if you searched on diffrent times when less active players, you can wait 10 mins or longer...) And i often wondered why do i play this game? Why not just watch youtube without coc? So why play? Well i have great clanmembers that was mainly the reason i kept playing coc...
I did do a serious cup run once. trying to get into Titan 1 and maybe an attempt for legend... Well you serously need to be a compleet no-lifer or have 5 brothers or friends that will help you get trough those 6 hours sessions twice a day... Even if you have the time, there is so much more in live than go beyond titan 3 in those days....


So COC after update...
For me the game became actualy fun again, suddenly the search time went down alot! And the villages worth raiding increased by alot, in addition heroes were not allways present, there were actualy wizzards in the clancastle instead of allways those dogs!... I suppose before the update i would only find a defending village of people that were either testing it or thinking they could actualy win cups by defending.... (keep dreaming this game doesnt favor defenders...) And with the village guard of 2 hours (titan 3 bonus, titan 2 gets 3 hours and titan 1 goes 4 hours) i could do 3-4 atacks before i can be atacked again... And i dont mind doing only 1 atack each 2 hours... I mean this is casual gaming in a titan 3 league! Just because of that villague guard that increases i think its actualy possible to go to titan 1 in a casual way, and maybe reach legend by just boosting barracks and spellfactory.... (if your maxed TH11 offcourse)

About me saving loot, not much problems, just made a base were the atacker has to go for either loot or TH, but will unlikely get booth even when he brings his level 20 warden... I pretty much lose all defs sometimes i win because the atacker went for loot and failed to get 50% but they usualy go for towhall, and fail to reach the storages that i want to protect.. (I admit i can only protect 6 storages, but since i can chose which 6 will most likely stay unharmed i never fail to upgrade the next thing when a builder is done :) )

The main downside i feel is that as an atacker i m a TH10 without warden and a TH11 with warden...
Since i pretty much kick my warden to the next level when he just finished the previous, that means i never have a warden at all.... (until he is 20...) And i can allready imagne the horror when those other two can go to 50.... Upgrading heroes has allways been an anoying issue except for the rich...
Anyway as TH11 atacker i still feel way to much as a TH10 unlesh i have the warden with me.... I m not saying he should be nerfed, i just find it a bit dissapointing that for such a huge update it's just that one guy that increases my atack and he is sleeping 24/7 till march... (which is probably when the next update comes that adds stuff...)

Anyway Titan 3 bonus went from 230k to 280k except that you need 70% destruction... So that means i bully the champ 1 and 2 division that have their heroes sleeping and wall 9... Yup thats the 70% destruction target (when you dont have a warden) So it would make more sense that the league your target is in should allso affect the bonus your getting not just the 70% destruction... Or when i find a TH9 thats just a easy 100% with half or no spells to use...

So my addition to the next update would be that the league your target is in affects bonus aswell rather than destruction % only...

Regards a Titan 3 farmer (I dont use this name in game i case you try finding me)

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Originally Posted by PDawg

Why do they always reward for a poor base ? Here is the description for loot cart:

Last but not least, we’ll introduce the Loot Cart. After your village has been attacked, a percentage of the stolen resources will be added to a Loot Cart in your Village. Once you collect the resources from the Loot Cart, these will be transferred to your Treasury for safeguarding.

OK they are going to give a loot bonus for all resources stolen into the loot cart will say 5%, why not reward good defense by also adding 10% of all loot not taken into the loot cart providing at least 50% of the attacking army is deployed. This would reward those bases that have good defenses.

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While you started off in a direction I thought was going to be overly negative you ended strong. I agree they should offer some kind of reward for a successful defense. I do think they need something to help out the less advanced players as well so I am glad you didn't just say screw the weak bases but you offered a compromise with 5% and 10%. While I don't know what type of percentages should be involved I do agree a successful defense should be rewarded with more than just cups. Give the defender something like a league bonus and the defeated base the loot cart.

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Originally Posted by alexheney

I always said it was probably a bug.

Whatever some people here seem to think, they are not stupid, and it would have been very stupid indeed to deliberately exacerbate the negative effects of the change by doing that.

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Is this a passive way of giving credit where credit is due?

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Originally Posted by Marika[Supercell]

We're still working on the update, so probably not much news until early next week :) The concepts are pretty solid already, and now we're finalising numbers, testing everything and fixing bugs. There are still a few bugs left, even though we fixed some big ones last week, like the matchmaking bug that caused inactive villages to appear very rarely in matchmaking (it's fixed now).

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Good to hear from you :thumbsup:

I'm also glad you now inform more the community. Thanks

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Originally Posted by alexheney

I always said it was probably a bug.

Whatever some people here seem to think, they are not stupid, and it would have been very stupid indeed to deliberately exacerbate the negative effects of the change by doing that.

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The lack of dead bases happened with the update, so you think it took them three weeks to notice and fix the 'bug'? No, the change was deliberate and the restoration of dead base availability is an attempt to fix the economy, along with all these other hokey additions.

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Originally Posted by Marika[Supercell]

We're still working on the update, so probably not much news until early next week :) The concepts are pretty solid already, and now we're finalising numbers, testing everything and fixing bugs. There are still a few bugs left, even though we fixed some big ones last week, like the matchmaking bug that caused inactive villages to appear very rarely in matchmaking (it's fixed now).

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I waited
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Originally Posted by Rogalian

It's actually the reverse. Because of the huge mismatch between army cook and hero regeneration times, I don't boost at all. I wait on the army and spells, and then wait some more for heroes. Very rarely I'll boost a hero to get an extra raid in (if I've not had to use all my troops and spells) - so the 5 gem for 1 hour was a welcome change. But it's substantially less than I'd be using if the times matched up - 5 gems now and then vs 50 per boost session.

Pre-update for 10 gems and 2 hour boosts I didn't boost anything whatsoever once my heroes got into their teens due to this.

Happy to wait, happy to spend gems, just don't nag me every single raid to spend more. A fixed cost for an hour would be welcome.

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Hero regeneration, troop training times and spell factory boost ALL need changed! They are horrible!!!!!! The spell factory should produce at least at 8x during boost as there are only 1 factory for each type of spells and multiple barracks. The boosting is completely off sync which makes it a waste of gems to boost. Supercell is a business and they want money so I'm sure they will never make it to where you don't feel the urge to buy gems, but given the publicity of this game, they could make it easier on the casual player (and those who don't have thousands of dollars to spend on gems) by making things a little more cost effective.

• Provide more gems from village vegetation
• Decrease Hero regeneration
• Reduce troop training times
• Increase spell training during boost or reduce standard training times
• Give gem bonus for war wins through every league level

Just make the game fun again and not so tedious. It feels more like work at times than a fun game.

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Originally Posted by Xatan

Report from the titan 3 division...

So before this update i was a maxed out TH10 with exception of walls, (arround half was 11)
I usualy logged in twice a day and made sessions between 1 and 2 hours searching for something that was worth raiding and i did snipe every TH i came across. (TH outside was a free 230k of booth gold and elixer)
This way I upgraded arround 2 walls to level 11 a day, so yeah decent result... BUT while i was searching i was allways watching youtube, anime, movie or reading a book (you have 1 to 2 mins of clouds average and thats when you search villages when players are active, if you searched on diffrent times when less active players, you can wait 10 mins or longer...) And i often wondered why do i play this game? Why not just watch youtube without coc? So why play? Well i have great clanmembers that was mainly the reason i kept playing coc...
I did do a serious cup run once. trying to get into Titan 1 and maybe an attempt for legend... Well you serously need to be a compleet no-lifer or have 5 brothers or friends that will help you get trough those 6 hours sessions twice a day... Even if you have the time, there is so much more in live than go beyond titan 3 in those days....


So COC after update...
For me the game became actualy fun again, suddenly the search time went down alot! And the villages worth raiding increased by alot, in addition heroes were not allways present, there were actualy wizzards in the clancastle instead of allways those dogs!... I suppose before the update i would only find a defending village of people that were either testing it or thinking they could actualy win cups by defending.... (keep dreaming this game doesnt favor defenders...) And with the village guard of 2 hours (titan 3 bonus, titan 2 gets 3 hours and titan 1 goes 4 hours) i could do 3-4 atacks before i can be atacked again... And i dont mind doing only 1 atack each 2 hours... I mean this is casual gaming in a titan 3 league! Just because of that villague guard that increases i think its actualy possible to go to titan 1 in a casual way, and maybe reach legend by just boosting barracks and spellfactory.... (if your maxed TH11 offcourse)

About me saving loot, not much problems, just made a base were the atacker has to go for either loot or TH, but will unlikely get booth even when he brings his level 20 warden... I pretty much lose all defs sometimes i win because the atacker went for loot and failed to get 50% but they usualy go for towhall, and fail to reach the storages that i want to protect.. (I admit i can only protect 6 storages, but since i can chose which 6 will most likely stay unharmed i never fail to upgrade the next thing when a builder is done :) )

The main downside i feel is that as an atacker i m a TH10 without warden and a TH11 with warden...
Since i pretty much kick my warden to the next level when he just finished the previous, that means i never have a warden at all.... (until he is 20...) And i can allready imagne the horror when those other two can go to 50.... Upgrading heroes has allways been an anoying issue except for the rich...
Anyway as TH11 atacker i still feel way to much as a TH10 unlesh i have the warden with me.... I m not saying he should be nerfed, i just find it a bit dissapointing that for such a huge update it's just that one guy that increases my atack and he is sleeping 24/7 till march... (which is probably when the next update comes that adds stuff...)

Anyway Titan 3 bonus went from 230k to 280k except that you need 70% destruction... So that means i bully the champ 1 and 2 division that have their heroes sleeping and wall 9... Yup thats the 70% destruction target (when you dont have a warden) So it would make more sense that the league your target is in should allso affect the bonus your getting not just the 70% destruction... Or when i find a TH9 thats just a easy 100% with half or no spells to use...

So my addition to the next update would be that the league your target is in affects bonus aswell rather than destruction % only...

Regards a Titan 3 farmer (I dont use this name in game i case you try finding me)

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I think your idea of casual and my idea of casual are entirely different. I'm glad you are having success with the new system, I do think your idea of league bonuses being dependent upon opponents league is an interesting idea. Would have to think about that a little more but sounds good at first glance.

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Originally Posted by alexheney

I always said it was probably a bug.

Whatever some people here seem to think, they are not stupid, and it would have been very stupid indeed to deliberately exacerbate the negative effects of the change by doing that.

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Companies make stupid decisions all the time. Companies are run by people, and it's been proven that people have been known to make bad decisions from time to time.

That sounds like Boom Beach.

And that gameplay is pretty poor too.