Slash troop prices and spell timing

If the goal of the new update was to have us improve our attacking ability, that means we have to change our troop combo. This involves way more elixir spent and time to train. Making us play considerably less than before. I have to wait 2 hours until spells are finished. And have to spend nearly all my loot from raids on training troops+spells (I need roughly 400k) to do any decent attacking against th11s.. And how many bases do you think even have that much loot to begin with? Not many. I have to continually rely on dead bases to stay in the game. I'm struggling here. Can't you guys cut us a break?

Like atleast slash prices for wizzies, drags, pekka. It was a good price before the update, but now it's just horrendously expensive. And for spell.. Prices are OK I guess.. But the timing is crazy long.

The price for those troops is in exchange for their massive power. No need for a change in my opinion.

Would be best handled through league perks

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...54#post6348454

Radiating.. In my opinion it doesn't matter what you think.. But how you play the game. If you don't attack and sit on your resources all day, then what you said makes sense. If you are in champion league where raiding needs to happen more often.. Then it doesn't make sense. You can't learn tactics by in frequent raids, and by running out of elixir. And you can't attack or raid by using under powered troops. From silver to champion there is a huge elixir problem, and the 1 gem boost is a bandaid to that problem.

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Originally Posted by Radiating

The price for those troops is in exchange for their massive power. No need for a change in my opinion.

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Lol, but their power is no longer massive. That's like buying a computer from the 80's with like 8 megabytes of RAM and the computer store tries to charge you 7,000 dollars for it and you're like "That's way too much, this thing is from the 80's" and the computer store guy is like "The cost is in exchange for its massive memory" and you're all like "Yeah it was massive in the 80's but now there's more memory in a disposable camera from Walgreens" and the guy's like "Well if you don't like it then don't buy it, the price is more of a YOU problem than a ME problem" so you don't buy anything and you exit the computer store and you delete the computer store app from your phone until the computer store hires new staff and updates its inventory to fit its current market. Basically, stop living in 2012, Radiating.

IM suprized you are sill attacking XD attacing is a waste of time and elizer since the update, supercell wanted to remove it and they did (i kinda like it tbh i hate getting attacked) i never attack anymore because i lose more than i gain, i just boost my colectors and earn thousands in a few hours... if you wanna make loot never attack just use your collectors... in 2 days i got 2 million gold thats a million a day! way less than before the update! before the update i made .25 (around there) a day minus the .1 or .2 million lost in attackers taking my loot so around .15-.05 million a day not worth it and i attaked getting an avrage of .1-.2 per attack and that paid for my attack and the spins. but with this amazing update i make million a day and its insane, i never get attacked and if i do then its one troop so i lose nothing! its the best! so for now here is the pro tip, NEVER attack unless needed, use collectors to their fullest! thats all :P happy clashing!

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Originally Posted by DJJDCOOOL

IM suprized you are sill attacking XD attacing is a waste of time and elizer since the update, supercell wanted to remove it and they did (i kinda like it tbh i hate getting attacked) i never attack anymore because i lose more than i gain, i just boost my colectors and earn thousands in a few hours... if you wanna make loot never attack just use your collectors...

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Then you're treating this game like farmville then. I highly doubt that's the intentions of the developers. A good game requires a balance of attacking and resources. If you're being deprived of attacking often, then the game is seriously lacking. I'm not sure how it is for guys lower than TH11, but as TH11 I'm attacking less often because I keep running out of elixir and DE to spend. Right now I have 150K elixir, and 500 DE.. if I lose an attack and get no elixir I'm done for the day. If I win an attack, but get no loot, then I'm done for the day.

If I spend my resources on barbs, archers, gobs.. as TH11... then you're just asking to lose.. or you're simply looking for dead bases. I can go through 1 mil in elixir super fast.. because in reality that's enough for TWO attacks. If I lose both of them in loot, I'm done for.

Supercell really needs to think about these factors to make this game playable again. I used to make 10-20 attacks a day.. but now I'm down to 1-2 (sometimes 5 if I'm lucky).. and it's not being very fun anymore. I'm not learning new tactics cause I don't have any playroom to practice.

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Originally Posted by Radiating

The price for those troops is in exchange for their massive power. No need for a change in my opinion.

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I see you're th9 in your signature... Best not to mistake post count for in game experience.

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Originally Posted by Butthax

I see you're th9 in your signature... Best not to mistake post count for in game experience.

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I've been around for longer than my signature suggests. Don't judge a book by its cover, I'm from the Jorge Yao and pre-CW era.

It would be great if they dropped raining times. Also if they had a save army button so you don't have to do the math yourself every time


Cheers
LB

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Originally Posted by Radiating

I've been around for longer than my signature suggests. Don't judge a book by its cover, I'm from the Jorge Yao and pre-CW era.

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That doesn't matter.. I've seen guys who played from that era.. and are still an active th9 with less than 100 mil gold grab..

th11 is a different world.. and depending on how active you are.. and what you do.. the game doesn't offer any leniencies for people who don't get loot from the game. People constantly search for loot.. and if they don't see any loot in their matchups.. its more searching and more matching. I personally HAVE to skip guys who offer 200k in loot because that doesn't even cover the costs of my troops. If I see a 400k elixir base, then I have to make sure I attack very well.. otherwise it'll take me almost a day to recover and attack again.

If you're even experiencing this problem, then you'd really have to re-think your original quote. But like I said in previous posts.. it's really what you do with the game. If you just sit around collecting resources.. or you don't have max troops to use.. and all you do is collect loot from dead bases.. then yeah.. your original quote really makes sense. But this is definitely hurting people who don't gem, and just trying to get by in the game as a farming th11.. because there aren't a lot of dead bases.. and most of us has max troops.. and minor troops (barbs, archers, gobs) doesn't cut it.

To get a real sense of what I'm talking about... 90% of the guys in my matchups have less than 300k elixir (I need around ~350k to break even). I went from gold to champion and back to gold again.. and the spread is very similar. People around th10 and th11 simply don't have that much elixir. I know I'm not the only one complaining about this, because it's very apparent in my day to day matchup that there's an elixir drain. I don't need statistics or data from a database to figure this out.

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Originally Posted by Radiating

I've been around for longer than my signature suggests. Don't judge a book by its cover, I'm from the Jorge Yao and pre-CW era.

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So what? I am too. Started 3 months after launch. 2billion gold grab and 140 hero levels later...

Unless I am mistaken you're currently commenting on th11 game play which you have no experience in whatsoever. I recall a comment you made about struggling to 3 star at th9. If you are yet to master this aspect of the game, then what makes you the authority on anything past that point? I don't mean to pick a fight, but should you not leave discussion of end game matters to those who actually know, from first hand experience, what they are talking about? Don't get me wrong, i do see you do a lot of good work directing members to stickies and ruled out posts etc.

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Originally Posted by Butthax

So what? I am too. Started 3 months after launch. 2billion gold grab and 140 hero levels later...

Unless I am mistaken you're currently commenting on th11 game play which you have no experience in whatsoever. I recall a comment you made about struggling to 3 star at th9. If you are yet to master this aspect of the game, then what makes you the authority on anything past that point? I don't mean to pick a fight, but should you not leave discussion of end game matters to those who actually know, from first hand experience, what they are talking about? Don't get me wrong, i do see you do a lot of good work directing members to stickies and ruled out posts etc.

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Ah! I must've missed the part about TH11. I stand corrected.

This all plays in to softbanks hands. Want to play as "intended"? With golem, hounds, and pekkas??...enjoy those 45min timers + spell time. Ooohhh wait I can spend gems and boost factories and racks so I can actually attack more than once every 2 hours. YAY!

+1 on reductions (never gonna happen though)