I must admit, I'm confused

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Originally Posted by ElToucan

What league are you in and how reliably do you get shields? just curious

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Max TH9

Gold: Shield 1/3 times

Crystal: Shield 3/4 times

It's really bad in Gold where I had been farming my entire TH9 career. I hear that it is worse in silver, but if you get to the pushers leagues then you will get a shield almost every time, but you want the defense win anyways.

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Originally Posted by danielealy

Why is it that so many people want to be able to loot someone else's base but they some how think that their own base shouldn't be at risk?

If looting is going to be part of the game, you have to face up to the tradeoff.

The only alternative is to just do away with looting altogether. Just give rewards for smashing stuff.

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The other angle is that too much time spent in multiplayer means less time spent everywhere else. That seems to be the by-product of the update.

When you break it down like you have it seems simple but it clearly isn't when looking at the obvious consequences. With the addition of clan wars it didn't seem like the focus of the game was a pvp model. Another reason why "playing as intended" makes little sense to me.

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Originally Posted by danielealy

Why is it that so many people want to be able to loot someone else's base but they some how think that their own base shouldn't be at risk?

If looting is going to be part of the game, you have to face up to the tradeoff.

The only alternative is to just do away with looting altogether. Just give rewards for smashing stuff.

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Thanks for for posting this. I feel the exact same way. I bust some guy for 300k, I have no reason to be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ if I get busted for the same.

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Originally Posted by Chowwda

I would love for us to be able to track the total amount of loot stolen from our bases.


The increase in commitment to progress is the main source of frustration, in my opinion.

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1. I wish we had that tracked as well; it would be great to see net loot including war.
2. This is the greatest concern which should be apparent to all of us but sadly some don't realize that just because they are thriving doesn't mean that everyone in the food chain is...

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Originally Posted by danielealy

Why is it that so many people want to be able to loot someone else's base but they some how think that their own base shouldn't be at risk?

If looting is going to be part of the game, you have to face up to the tradeoff.

The only alternative is to just do away with looting altogether. Just give rewards for smashing stuff.

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This is exactly the realization "A True Chief" should come to terms with :-)


I think that the "break even" activity for the game is 2-3 attacks a day which matches quite well with the number of attacks you can get in from behind a shield.

If you expect to find "good loot" you have to expect to provide "good loot".

/Affront

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Originally Posted by Denton

1. I wish we had that tracked as well; it would be great to see net loot including war.
2. This is the greatest concern which should be apparent to all of us but sadly some don't realize that just because they are thriving doesn't mean that everyone in the food chain is...

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1. You can look at your attack/defense log .. got hit for an amount .. your attack log should show that you broke even after a few attacks. A year over year tally will depress you, so don't look further back than a few days.
2. Not everybody in the food chain SHOULD thrive .. this is not a 2nd grade competition where everybody gets the same medal for participation. Survival of the fittest .. play aggressively or don't play at all.

/Affront

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Originally Posted by Affront

1. You can look at your attack/defense log .. got hit for an amount .. your attack log should show that you broke even after a few attacks. A year over year tally will depress you, so don't look further back than a few days.
2. Not everybody in the food chain SHOULD thrive .. this is not a 2nd grade competition where everybody gets the same medal for participation. Survival of the fittest .. play aggressively or don't play at all.

/Affront

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You are talking about a tablet game marketed at children, yes? Just checking:smirk:

The game can not be zero sum. It's a game, not life. It has to be possible for everyone to win. That means being able to make progress.

The current system punishes those who hold onto their loot to save for upgrades. Since casual players can't save more than a few million gold or elixir the either quit or dump everything they make into walls.

Thai isn't fun for anyone so people complain. I doubt anyone minds getting raided once or twice a day. What they mind is being unable to make progress.

The current system wound work is 30%was dumped and lost reasources have shield. If would further Benicia from a big increase to league bonuses.

You all should so an experiment. Schedule an arranged war. Use typical farming bases and see just how many resources buildings can be destroyed shy of 30% I'd reinstall the app to participate, at least as a test base.

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Originally Posted by Chowwda

The abandoned bases put so much loot into the economy, that we actives didn't stress when we would get hit with a 3 star raid.

However, now all the non Active bases are pulled from the queues after a couple of days, and we are now forced to devour each other for a zero sum gain. Yes some people are still successfully making in game progress, but they are either spending more time and or gems to do it.

The increase in commitment to progress is the main source of frustration, in my opinion.

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Couldn't have said it better myself. Music to my ears.

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Originally Posted by freddywy

Thanks for for posting this. I feel the exact same way. I bust some guy for 300k, I have no reason to be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ if I get busted for the same.

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It's not a big deal if you can recoup those losses, but if you can't...

You right ! They think they can loot 400k + each and when someone take them 200k each they come to here and complain about it:facepalm: